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Old 09-02-2011, 05:34 PM   #271
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Default Re: As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM higher.........

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Floyd did not use size to beat Marquez...True story.

Hell, Floyd doesn't use size to beat anyone.
Isal, youve always been a pac hater since day 1, especially when pac gobbled all your heroes... you have no right to be in this discussion, retard.
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:34 PM   #272
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Stylewise, Floyd would always be a nightmare for JMM. But with JMM fighting above 135lbs for the first time, and 7 lbs above that with no tune up and against someone like Floyd, it was pretty much certain that he would get beat the way he did..JMM had absloutely NO advatange going into that fight. Floyd would always beat Juan, at 130lbs, 135lbs you name it, but i am quite sure it wouldnt be as one sided as it was in their encounter IMO.
Ironically- i think that floyd would have put a huger hurt on Marquez if it was the 130-135 floyd! He was a BEAST in the lower weights, moreso than he is no IMO.Obviously age and experience would have come into play- but if the floyd at 130 (skill and attribute wise) and the 147 floyd(intelligence wise) meshed into 1 fighter and fought marquez at 130 Marquez would have needed a coroner.
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:44 PM   #273
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RIght, and the fact that JMM looked bloated and slow because he was in a division he did'nt belong in had no effect on the fight!
He's fighting Pac at the same weight, I guarantee you he hit Pac more times then he hit Mayweather unless Pac can KO him early. The reason why he'll connect on Pac more is for obvious reasons. Pac is not as skilled as Mayweather when it comes to defense. It's not like Marquez remain at 147lbs from then to now to fight Manny. He's moving up once again and chances are in slow, bloated form. He's going to give Manny a better fight then he did Mayweather.
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:36 PM   #274
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Good win for me and certainly in Floyd's top 7 wins.
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Old 09-02-2011, 08:56 PM   #275
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Mayweather was never a featherweight.

The lower the weight, the more competitive the fight is.

I think Marquez would have stood a good chance at 130 lbs, but I'd still have to favor Mayweather because of his height, reach, and speed advantage.
.......but those gaps in the physical advantage Mayweather had against Marquez at 147 lbs narrow significantly, and as I've stated, I think strenghthwise, Marquez would be the physically stronger fighter at 130 lbs, which would make Mayweathers bump and roll defense not nearly as effective against a physicallly stronger Marquez than it was at 147 lbs.

Marquez being physically stronger than Mayweather at 130 lbs I believe lends to the notion that he would at various points in the fight break through Mayweather's shoulder roll and the physical defense he likes to employ......which in turn would force Mayweather to have to left his hands go to gain Marquez respect, which in turn opens up opportunities for Marquez to land on the counter.

I think it would play out razor close, but because of styles, I still have to give the quicker, faster, skill fighter the advantage to pull out a decision.

Btw, if anyone is getting knocked out at 130 lbs, it will be Mayweather from the creative combinations Marquez would land on him during inside fire exchange.
I know. you know the term "what if" dont you? Im just asking you what would the fight turn out if they EVER fight on that weight. will they be competitive (im just giving Marquez advantage in weight, coz that'a all he'll ever have).

I love JMM's style, but still Mayweather beats JMM in all the weightclass ive given you, specially the imaginary 126 PBF.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:26 AM   #276
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I've long said it isn't a bullshit win, but it wasn't a great win either. It was a good win over a guy who was number 2 P4P at the time coming up in weight vs a guys who had been off for a while. Good win, not great win.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:21 AM   #277
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Default Re: As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM higher.........

So to those who disagreed with some of my viewpoints, are things a bit different now?
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:36 AM   #278
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I dont. It was Marquez' first time coming over the 135lb limit where he was already NOT looking like his old self. Mayweather came above the stipulated weight, plus the size difference and styles.
lets not forget Marquez looked like he had his pockets filled with sandbags.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:36 AM   #279
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As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM less and less................

It really was a bullshit win. Isn't even in Floyd's top 10 IMO.
Still feel that way Popkins?
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Old 11-13-2011, 01:15 PM   #280
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Old 11-20-2011, 12:43 AM   #281
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Default Re: As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM higher.........

It looks a lot better now given JMM's "win" over Pacquiao. Sure size played a part but Floyd outboxed JMM for the most part.
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