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Old 08-30-2011, 03:35 PM   #46
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Default Re: As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM higher.........

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It's a meaningless, worthless win. It's like Pacquiao beating Humberto Soto or Mosley beating Nate Campbell would have been in '09, means nothing. A guy who had been at welterweight for 5 years vs a guy who was at superfeatherweight the year before. Come off it.
Or Pacquiao beating Marquez at 144 2 years later
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:48 PM   #47
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This is a BS Win just like PAC DLH, Except the little man actually moved up to fight a bigger dead guy..

Mayweather made a little guy move up and then ****ed him in the scales to secure his win even more, then came in at 160, that is anything but impressive..

Pac will always rank higher because of

JMM MAB MORALES


COtto/Hatton

The only ATG really that Mayweather beat was DLH... lol as the JMM fight doesn't count like I don't count PAC's win over DLH
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:49 PM   #48
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This is a BS Win just like PAC DLH, Except the little man actually moved up to fight a bigger dead guy..

Mayweather made a little guy move up and then ****ed him in the scales to secure his win even more, then came in at 160, that is anything but impressive..

Pac will always rank higher because of

JMM MAB MORALES

COtto/Hatton

The only ATG really that Mayweather beat was DLH... lol as the JMM fight doesn't count like I don't count PAC's win over DLH
Proof he came in at 160? He currently is weighing 149.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:51 PM   #49
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It's a win over a big name, but honestly JMM just looked helpless at the weight, and I don't think that was all Floyd's doing. I think JMM loses to just about any top welterweight when he tries to go that big. I'm hoping Pac plays out different since Pac's not a natural WW either and won't be all that huge compared to JMM in the ring.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:53 PM   #50
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I don't. He beat a champ from two divisions down. That would be like Ward taking on a 154 pounder and dominating. In fact, it looks even worse now that he's bragging about it.

To be fair, I won't put give Pac a ton of credit to beating him at 140+ either.
But Andre Ward is a natural 168 pound fighter who's fought most of his career there,whereas Floyd is someone who fought most of his career at 130/35. And Ward would deserve some credit if he dominated someone like a 2008 Sergio Martinez coming up from 154 and Ward simply outboxed him without no bullying tactics.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:54 PM   #51
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you know the rules.. Floyd gets no credit.. Shit he don't even get credit for ortiz and he did not even win yet.. Meanwhile pac is fighting marquez and will get all the credit for whatever.

Sure whatever floats your boat. If you are speaking of the Pactards then yes they will give credit to Pac but the rest don't see this as a meaninful fight. Pac vs Marquez should of been done years ago and at 135lbs not at 144lbs. Same goes for Floyd, it was not a "good" win over Marquez since Floyd had all the advantanges over him, even on the scales where he cheated.
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:17 PM   #52
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Proof he came in at 160? He currently is weighing 149.

Proof that he didn't come at 160... none as he doesn't allow people to see his weight and everyone just guesses.

Just my observation, but that day he looked bulkier then in Previous fights...
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:24 PM   #53
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Proof that he didn't come at 160... none as he doesn't allow people to see his weight and everyone just guesses.

Just my observation, but that day he looked bulkier then in Previous fights...

You have no ****ing proof that he was 160 and you want me to prove to he wasnt?

Ignored.
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:26 PM   #54
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he dominated jmm in every way. i think woudla happened at pretty much any weight which is why its a fair win but not that high on his list.
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:16 PM   #55
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You know what??? I went back and looked at a pre-fight photo of Marquez. He looked like he was in great fighting shape... Mayweather's does rate higher:

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Marquez his first fight at 144lbs... Doesn't he look great???
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:35 PM   #56
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But Andre Ward is a natural 168 pound fighter who's fought most of his career there,whereas Floyd is someone who fought most of his career at 130/35. And Ward would deserve some credit if he dominated someone like a 2008 Sergio Martinez coming up from 154 and Ward simply outboxed him without no bullying tactics.

I'll just never consider that to be a legitimate matchup. JMM didn't have a single advantage in the fight. Not one.

I didn't even consider buying the fight and JMM is one of my favorites. It was like a varsity vs. jv scrimmage.
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:36 PM   #57
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The advantage Floyd had in foot speed and overall agility made this fight beyond anticlimactic - even for what people expected. It was like watching somebody slap around a guy buried at the waist in the sand.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:11 PM   #58
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Proof he came in at 160? He currently is weighing 149.
Since when does what we weigh now have anything to do with his in ring weights? The only reason you ask for proof is because you know it's not there. Then when he can't provide anything, you acts if you won, hence you adding that irrelevant bit on floyd's weight currently.

Anyone can see the difference between floyd and when he got to 147, fighting near that weight, and how big he looked vs. JMM and Shane.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:16 PM   #59
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You have no ****ing proof that he was 160 and you want me to prove to he wasnt?

Ignored.
Out of curiosity, why do you think Floyd stopped in fight night weigh ins to be announced? You know DLH used to do that as well. Mainly when he fought smaller guys too. Why do you think Floyd started that when he became a GBP fighter?

OR what do you make of the clause in the JMM contract that forbid them to talk about the exact weight of the fight in interviews?

people hide shit for a reason. DOn't be so naive..
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:19 PM   #60
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you know the rules.. Floyd gets no credit.. Shit he don't even get credit for ortiz and he did not even win yet.. Meanwhile pac is fighting marquez and will get all the credit for whatever.

You are such a fool. THe thread starter made this to say he gives floyd more credit now, and this is the type of crybaby reply you can muster?

BTW you uneducated cunt, no one is saying that shit about PAc and JMM anyway.
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