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Old 12-09-2007, 11:22 PM   #16
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Joe Calzaghe does need to fight Hopkins and Jones before he retires though.
Hopkins maybe, but Jones, no way. he's had it and calzaghe will gain little credit for taking this fight.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:36 AM   #17
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calzaghe deserved to take that award last night lets face it 10 yrs & no defeats - thats some achievement- Hattons dad made the fight with mayweather but that was obviously a big mistake - when i look back at the Frank ****** interview last week - he was certainly right about what would happen on saturday - lets face it we all dis ****** but his certainly done right for calzaghe on this one - i bet the fall out with hatton ****** was ricky wanted to move up the weight & ****** said no way!!!
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:20 AM   #18
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Kessler imo is better p4p than Hatton
Absolutely no chance.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:21 AM   #19
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All these guys are traffic jamming the paths which are a few streets behind Mundine's p4p ranking.


I concur.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:44 AM   #20
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Calzaghe is seriously overated by the general public. He is over protected the best he has fought was an over the hill Chris Eubank. Lacy was all hype a useless fighter, Kessler is also ordinary. Joe needs to get some balls and fight the best away from home - like Hatton. Hatton is a far better fighter in every way.

The problem is Joe will probably beat up an ancient Hopkins and everyone will think he is the greatest of all time - cleverly managaged by ******.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:48 AM   #21
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I Think This Pretty Much Says That ****** Is A Great Manager
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Old 12-10-2007, 08:39 AM   #22
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Calzaghe is seriously overated by the general public. He is over protected the best he has fought was an over the hill Chris Eubank. Lacy was all hype a useless fighter, Kessler is also ordinary. Joe needs to get some balls and fight the best away from home - like Hatton. Hatton is a far better fighter in every way.

The problem is Joe will probably beat up an ancient Hopkins and everyone will think he is the greatest of all time - cleverly managaged by ******.
This is exactly how I see it.
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:43 AM   #23
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Calzaghe is an awesome fighter but the original poster makes a good point, Calzaghe needs Hopkins to cement his legacy IMO..... Kessler and Lacy- very good fighters but never will they be thought of as ATG like Mayweather and Barrera.
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:05 AM   #24
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Calzaghe is seriously overated by the general public. He is over protected the best he has fought was an over the hill Chris Eubank. Lacy was all hype a useless fighter, Kessler is also ordinary. Joe needs to get some balls and fight the best away from home - like Hatton. Hatton is a far better fighter in every way.

The problem is Joe will probably beat up an ancient Hopkins and everyone will think he is the greatest of all time - cleverly managaged by ******.
Yet you bitches wanted him to fight Kessler and Lacy and he outclassed both while Hatton gets pwned by Mayweather.

Hatton cherrypicked even worse with guys like Urango, Maussa, Castillo and Callazo since Tszyu.

Better fighter In every way, thats crap and you know It. Calzaghe's way more skilled and Hatton has no more skills.

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Old 12-10-2007, 12:01 PM   #25
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The bare facts are Hatton who is five years junior to Joe has got in the ring with the cream of not only his own weight division but the one above. It was blatantly obvious he was going to fight De la Hoya next as well, should he have beaten Mayweather.

Calzaghe has spent 15 years as a pro and not once has he faced a real creme fighter. It is near impossible to believe that in this extensive 15 year boxing career he couldn't have fought just one. There must be a reason.

Give the five years younger Ricky the credit he deserves. A man who faces the best and loses should be given far greater ethos then the man who never does but remains unbeaten.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:05 PM   #26
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At the end of the day Kessler IMO is an awesome fighter, & Calzaghe beat him.
Calzaghe beat the best in Kessler, & to say beating a guy like Kessler is fighting in the "comfort zone" is quite ludicrous.
I agree, but Kessler was, is & never will be as good as Mayweather. Before he retires, Joe needs to go to the USA & fight the best.

As it stands, Hatton lost to the best P4P figther the world over. Calzaghe reckons he's the best P4P, but that is laughable when you have a guy as good as Floyd.

Hatton has established himself in the USA, fought there a few times. That's what Calzaghe should have done by now!

Ricky may have lost, but there's no ahame in losing to THE best. You have to respect & admire Ricky for his insistance of facing the best & fighting in the USA.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:19 PM   #27
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I'm affraid to say Hatton looked like a one trick pony on saturday night. He's very good at what he does and clearly the best light welter in the world but when the going got tough he couldn't find something else.

On the other hand Calzaghe looks to have everything except perhaps single punch knockout power. And lets cut the crap about Joe's record. There are a lot of good names on it. Eubank, Woodhall, Kessler, Lacy, Brewer, Mitchell and Reid have all been world champs. No one has 20 plus defenses of any title without some filler as no weight division produces 20 big names, but the fact is most people that have had a shot a Joe's title earned the right for their shot. I can only really think of Manfredo that should't have been in there.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:16 PM   #28
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[quote=JonOli]Hatton has beaten superior fighters to Joe./QUOTE]

Bollacks has he.

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Costa Tzu was a far better champion then anything Joe has ever faced. Before anyone starts. Lacy with time is now looking increasingly normal and nothing special at all.
Kostya was also nearing the end of his career so stop pretending he was the main man.

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Ricky Hatton has also been a two weight division champion. Joe has never done this or tested himself outside his own weight division.
Means jack shit. Johnny Nelson was once the WBF HW Champ.


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Joe really should have fought the likes of RJJ and Hopkins(when he was in his prime). Ricky has fought the weight equivalent of these and therefore deserves greater respect. Ricky even moved up a division to get a shot. Did Joe do this? No, I wonder why?
Did hopkins leave his comfort zone ? No stuck at middle fighting pussies and over the hill fighters like eastman.
RJJ had moved up a weight before Calzaghe hit the big time.

b/s has Hatton fought the equivalents of RJJ and Hopkins. Besides his step up this weekend and fighting a end of line Kostya he has done sweet fa.

Its funny how you consider Hopkins a great - have you ever seen him fight ? The guy is a complete bore and spends half the fight running around the ring. If this fits your idea of a boxing great I can see why you love Hatton and co.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:19 PM   #29
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Calzaghe is seriously overated by the general public. He is over protected the best he has fought was an over the hill Chris Eubank. Lacy was all hype a useless fighter,
Strange how people like you thought Lacy was the dogs bollacks before JC schooled him.

Many would concur that Hatton is ordinary. Did you ever watch any of his WBU fights ? He was not exactly setting the world on fire.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:21 PM   #30
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Ricky may have lost, but there's no ahame in losing to THE best. You have to respect & admire Ricky for his insistance of facing the best & fighting in the USA.
There is no shame in losing if you are able to stick it with the best. The fight was all one sided which showed how poor Hatton is in reality.
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