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Old 12-11-2007, 04:18 AM   #46
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Default Re: Hatton is better than Calzaghe !!!!!

Many times. Hatton is far better.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:19 AM   #47
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You're an idiot.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:23 AM   #48
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There is nobody on Calzaghes record that was a top fighter, with the exception of Eubank who was over the hill. Lacy has proved to be useless. Kessler my have been undefeated but his record was full of bums - look at it - and prove me wrong if you can.

You my son are the idiot for falling for the Calzaghe/Frank Warran hype!
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:27 AM   #49
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No argument is needed - anybody who believes Ricky Hatton is even a technically good fighter, much less better than a true p4p talent like Calzaghe, is simply an idiot.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:30 AM   #50
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Okay so you avoided my question......

Its easy to look great fighting bums - Calzaghe is living proof.
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:52 AM   #51
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Who had Kessler fought to prove he was any good?
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:01 AM   #52
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Thats just plain wrong, the only way you can judge a fighter is by his opposition. Anybody with clever management can pad a record out. The only guy I have heard of on Kesslers record is a chap called Michael Corleone!

Kesslers record is full of complete bums. Have a look at it and try and say otherwise.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:30 AM   #53
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True Witter - your talking out your arse !!! there is no more of a debate on this Calzaghe is the best fighter in GB probaly ever....... it may have been a different matter if hatton would have won but he got his assed kicked & I think he would now get his ass kicked against Cotto, Cintron. Moseley & wouldnt like to think if he faced de la hoya - the truth is ricky is a g8 light welter but he has not gained any respect after saturdays disapointing show!! p.s i am a hatton fan
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:56 AM   #54
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True Witter - your talking out your arse !!! there is no more of a debate on this Calzaghe is the best fighter in GB probaly ever....... it may have been a different matter if hatton would have won but he got his assed kicked & I think he would now get his ass kicked against Cotto, Cintron. Moseley & wouldnt like to think if he faced de la hoya - the truth is ricky is a g8 light welter but he has not gained any respect after saturdays disapointing show!! p.s i am a hatton fan

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Amen ...and let that be the end of this nonsense
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Old 12-11-2007, 08:03 AM   #55
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For me, Ricky gets all respect for doing every he can to get the best fights and biggest challenges.
Joe takes no risks, and wants everyone to go to him.

Hatton moved out of his own divison to fight the #1 fighter in the sport in his home town.

Calzaghe, with 5 years more time than Hatton at world class, has done none of those things. He's never fought a light heavyweight, even when 168 was dead and Roy was #1 p4p and only one weight up... Calzaghe didn't go and get him like Hatton did to get Floyd. Leave ******, go to America, fight a world champion in Floyd's division,

Calzaghe didn't even go after Ottke like that, all he did was fight people Ottke had already beaten for 5 years.

If Hatton had done the same as Calzaghe, never gone to America, and never fought outside his division. He wouldn't have lost, he'd be sitting on 5 defences of the IBF title and waiting 10 more years for a decent opponent to come and fight him. Well he didn't.

Calzaghe has beaten Lacy and Kessler, two guys whose best opponents were Sheika and Mundine et al...

I can't call Calzaghe better than Hatton until he shows it. And right now, he isn't even close to showing it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:37 AM   #56
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For me, Ricky gets all respect for doing every he can to get the best fights and biggest challenges.
Joe takes no risks, and wants everyone to go to him.

Hatton moved out of his own divison to fight the #1 fighter in the sport in his home town.

Calzaghe, with 5 years more time than Hatton at world class, has done none of those things. He's never fought a light heavyweight, even when 168 was dead and Roy was #1 p4p and only one weight up... Calzaghe didn't go and get him like Hatton did to get Floyd. Leave ******, go to America, fight a world champion in Floyd's division,

Calzaghe didn't even go after Ottke like that, all he did was fight people Ottke had already beaten for 5 years.

If Hatton had done the same as Calzaghe, never gone to America, and never fought outside his division. He wouldn't have lost, he'd be sitting on 5 defences of the IBF title and waiting 10 more years for a decent opponent to come and fight him. Well he didn't.

Calzaghe has beaten Lacy and Kessler, two guys whose best opponents were Sheika and Mundine et al...

I can't call Calzaghe better than Hatton until he shows it. And right now, he isn't even close to showing it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:52 AM   #57
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So if Calzaghe is better than Hatton, due to not losing. Gavin Rees is better than Mosley. Derry Matthews is better than Pacquiao... and so and so forth...
And that's nonsence.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:59 AM   #58
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So if Calzaghe is better than Hatton, due to not losing. Gavin Rees is better than Mosley. Derry Matthews is better than Pacquiao... and so and so forth...
And that's nonsence.
hang on nerd for brains keep to the subject hattoin or calzaqghe - hatton has just had his first loss & to me he didnt beat collazo - calzaghe on the other hand has always looked so good theres really no comparison on this subject - as for rees & matthews then thats so stupid of you to bring in the same topic - the pair will only fill york hall let alone the men or cardiff!!
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:45 PM   #59
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Thats just plain wrong, the only way you can judge a fighter is by his opposition. Anybody with clever management can pad a record out. The only guy I have heard of on Kesslers record is a chap called Michael Corleone!

Kesslers record is full of complete bums. Have a look at it and try and say otherwise.
If you have not heard of Mundine, Beyer, Andrade and co you must have limited knowledge.

Hattons record is full of bums. Bruno fought Tyson twice so I guess by your standards he is better than JC.

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Old 12-11-2007, 12:57 PM   #60
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For me, Ricky gets all respect for doing every he can to get the best fights and biggest challenges.
Joe takes no risks, and wants everyone to go to him.

Hatton moved out of his own divison to fight the #1 fighter in the sport in his home town.

Calzaghe, with 5 years more time than Hatton at world class, has done none of those things. He's never fought a light heavyweight, even when 168 was dead and Roy was #1 p4p and only one weight up... Calzaghe didn't go and get him like Hatton did to get Floyd. Leave ******, go to America, fight a world champion in Floyd's division,

Calzaghe didn't even go after Ottke like that, all he did was fight people Ottke had already beaten for 5 years.

If Hatton had done the same as Calzaghe, never gone to America, and never fought outside his division. He wouldn't have lost, he'd be sitting on 5 defences of the IBF title and waiting 10 more years for a decent opponent to come and fight him. Well he didn't.

Calzaghe has beaten Lacy and Kessler, two guys whose best opponents were Sheika and Mundine et al...

I can't call Calzaghe better than Hatton until he shows it. And right now, he isn't even close to showing it.
Well said. Personally I think Joe is the better fighter but you cant credit him as such due to his total lack of ambition and quality of opponents.
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