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Old 09-09-2011, 08:36 AM   #61
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If Green thinks the pressure of promoting at home is too much, why can't someone other than Green Machine promote the fight here (or at least co-promote it?
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:41 AM   #62
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Stiffjab where are you?......
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:49 AM   #63
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If Green thinks the pressure of promoting at home is too much, why can't someone other than Green Machine promote the fight here (or at least co-promote it?
Poor Danny can't perform at his peak because of promotional responsibilities ?

Yeah whatever Danny.

Greens just has his name on the promotion and gives interviews / press conferences like he would anyway. He would have people behind the scenes who organise everything for him. Just a lame excuse by Danny to save face. I would have thought he would like to try and reclaim his bogus title in front of his home Perth fans. They could talk it up like some form of heroic Rocky Balboa encounter. People of his mindset would lap it up like a dehydrated canine.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:54 AM   #64
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its not just his name francis he does a shitload with his promotions , he doesnt employ a huge amount of people. Its how he is able to make such large profits.
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Old 09-09-2011, 09:14 AM   #65
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Stiffjab where are you?......
Green v Tarver II would be a walk in the park for Stiffy compared to getting Ty in the ring for his pro debut.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:04 AM   #66
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spot on..
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:14 AM   #67
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Green v Tarver II would be a walk in the park for Stiffy compared to getting Ty in the ring for his pro debut.
Or getting Toni into the boxing ring.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:52 PM   #68
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yeah i just saw all that controversy with tarver and that little hoodrat he was seeing on the sly. I just think its a tad hypocritical when people dont believe a word green says, then believe everything tarver says to a tee. they are both public identities, who will twist situations to make themselves look better and downplay the others co operations. I dont think it will happen , tarver will want the same or more than he was paid the first time around and he wants it in aus, whereas green wont want to fork out that amount of cash, as the first fight wasnt as successful as he thought it would be. Both parties should just move on, green should try to win another belt and then negotiate with tarver again for a "unification", it would give him more bargaining power and create more interest imo.
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Basically because Green has a long history of lying. Since then he had a epiphany and retired and said'' you won't see me coming back'' then come back to challenge the nagging ex-wife as he described him to a fight at 175 when he was at 160. Then he described him as an irrelevant pissant the day after he beat RJJ on Dec 3 09 only to change his mind on Feb with a Anzac day challenge using Aboriginal children to shame Mundine into it. The Siaca fight was signed within 6 days of this.Then Briggs nuff said then Flores where he told his friend there were no catchweights another lie. He's a BS artist the sooner him and Mundine retire the better only the Aussie Forum might close down.
But anyway the above is why people don't believe a word Green says.
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:19 AM   #69
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what a load of rubbish. as for why he dont get someone else to promote the fight here is bcus he would then be the employee, on employee wages. Why do you think they promote themselves. Most fighters who are under Top Rank etc will pay them 40% or more of profits.

It would be a dam tough game being self promoted. Its dog eat dog.
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Yeah whatever Danny.

Greens just has his name on the promotion and gives interviews / press conferences like he would anyway. He would have people behind the scenes who organise everything for him. Just a lame excuse by Danny to save face. I would have thought he would like to try and reclaim his bogus title in front of his home Perth fans. They could talk it up like some form of heroic Rocky Balboa encounter. People of his mindset would lap it up like a dehydrated canine.
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what a load of rubbish. as for why he dont get someone else to promote the fight here is bcus he would then be the employee, on employee wages. Why do you think they promote themselves. Most fighters who are under Top Rank etc will pay them 40% or more of profits.

It would be a dam tough game being self promoted. Its dog eat dog.
On page 4 you said green should give up the promotion because its too much hassle.
Now you spell out in detail why fighting on someone elses show is a terrible option.

Youve covered it well. LOL
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:16 AM   #71
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On page 4 you said green should give up the promotion because its too much hassle.
Now you spell out in detail why fighting on someone elses show is a terrible option.

Youve covered it well. LOL

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Old 09-10-2011, 06:41 AM   #72
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Thats right, it sucks dont it. That why it takes balls to do what guys like Green and Mundine do

When tarver came here he was self-promoted. He was paid a set price. He was contracted by Green Machine Boxing. DG wants to do the same but in reverse. AT promotes the fight in the US and pays DG a set amount and also Aussie PPV (which Tarver wont do).

Whereas if Green had a promoter here to promote the fight then that promoter would pay DG set amount, then AT set amount, and then make sure they take their share - which is where the problem comes in.

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On page 4 you said green should give up the promotion because its too much hassle.
Now you spell out in detail why fighting on someone elses show is a terrible option.

Youve covered it well. LOL
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:19 AM   #73
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Thats right, it sucks dont it. That why it takes balls to do what guys like Green and Mundine do

When tarver came here he was self-promoted. He was paid a set price. He was contracted by Green Machine Boxing. DG wants to do the same but in reverse. AT promotes the fight in the US and pays DG a set amount and also Aussie PPV (which Tarver wont do).

Whereas if Green had a promoter here to promote the fight then that promoter would pay DG set amount, then AT set amount, and then make sure they take their share - which is where the problem comes in.

So you want tarver to promote a fight that doesnt sell in the usa and no network wants just so danny can get oz ppv?

Explain how that can happen. Guess what? It cant. Shaw knows it and has said as much. Tarver too.

What part of the usa is not an option dont you understand?
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Old 09-10-2011, 07:26 AM   #74
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Green lost the fight so he's not in the position to demand much at all. If he wants to make a few more $$$ out of this game he needs to rematch Tarver in Aus and win, or say no thanks to a rematch because he's now realised that cruiserweight ain't his division and he's dropping down to light-heavy.

Why can't someone like Barry Michael co-promote it with Green, with Barry doing it for a fixed fee and a guaranteed shot for Cameron against the winner?
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:15 AM   #75
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If the said rematch clause nominated by GMP initially, and then agreed to between the parties, further noted and signed off in the contracts (Gary Shaw stating in interviews that it said Sydney), why is now Danny requesting that the rematch take place in the USA?

Tarver by that standing has no contractual obligation to promote the rematch, it's was GMP's clause requested, all Tarver did was agree to it, yet now it's been turned 180 degrees by Danny?

Danny don't want the fight and is simply putting on a front for the media and his fans, nothing more, nothing less.

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