Better Resume: Ike Ibeabuchi or Vitali Klitschko - Page 2

Malden · 09-09-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hard Don

Vitali is also a steroid cheat.

Duck Dodgers · 09-09-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hard Don

Vitali is also a steroid cheat.

Everybody knows the Ukraine got the best enhancement drugs.

chitownfightfan · 09-09-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hard Don

Vitali is also a steroid cheat.

Using steroids is NOT cheating if you use them to recover from an injury or to noramalize your active testosterone levels.

Vitali used them to recover from a torn muscle/ligament, and his synthetic levels were well within the limits for any professional sport, but since he admitted to using them for recovering from injury, he was systematically eliminated from amateur competition.

iceman71 · 09-09-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien

Ike Ibeabuchi

Record 20-0

Notable wins:

Prime undefeated Chris Byrd (TKO5)
Prime undefeated David Tua (UD)

Losses:

None

Vitali Klitschko

Record 42-2

Notable wins:

Herbie Hide (KO2)
Faded out of shape Corrie Sanders (TKO8
Out of shape Sam Peter (RTD8
Undefeated Solis (KO1)

Losses:

Chris Byrd (took the fight on a week notice) (Quit 9th)
Out of shape faded Lennox Lewis (TKO6)

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Obviously Ike has the two best single wins, but Vitali arguably has the better body of work, but also has two losses. Who has the better resume?

gee....no agenda here.....

one question....why is it a knock against vitali that everyone is lazy and comes in fat against him?

cant remember...its been a while...but how many titles did Ike win back in the day?

Hard Don · 09-09-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownfightfan

Using steroids is NOT cheating if you use them to recover from an injury or to noramalize your active testosterone levels.

Vitali used them to recover from a torn muscle/ligament, and his synthetic levels were well within the limits for any professional sport, but since he admitted to using them for recovering from injury, he was systematically eliminated from amateur competition.

Yeah right, just like getting your face busted apart from punches is not really losing in Klitschko fantasy land.

Malden · 09-09-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownfightfan

Using steroids is NOT cheating if you use them to recover from an injury or to noramalize your active testosterone levels.

Vitali used them to recover from a torn muscle/ligament, and his synthetic levels were well within the limits for any professional sport, but since he admitted to using them for recovering from injury, he was systematically eliminated from amateur competition.

We love those excuses yes. Though it doesnt beat Tyler Hamiltons "vanishing twin" or Landis´ "I drank whiskey the day before"

Toney also used the "injury" excuse.

PrtectWhoNex · 09-09-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Duck Dodgers

There's no blueprint on how to beat Ibeabuchi. 20 have tried and 20 have failed.

At the end of the day when its all said and done all roads leads to the state penitentiary in the sport a baaxin. They need to step up to the plate and take the test imo

Alien · 09-09-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Malden

We love those excuses yes. Though it doesnt beat Tyler Hamiltons "vanishing twin" or Landis´ "I drank whiskey the day before"

Toney also used the "injury" excuse.

Pretty much everyone caught has used some excuse - an "injury" being the most common. It's bullshit, like you say, Toney used it, twice!

Contador's "contaminated beef" is a favourite.

I think Landis actually said at first he has a naturally high testosterone, yet changed his story when they told him the testosterone they found was synthetic.

I hate these cheats man, all of them. They destroy any credibility within the sport. Tennis is one of the worst at the moment, but their testing is a big joke.

chitownfightfan · 09-09-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Malden

We love those excuses yes. Though it doesnt beat Tyler Hamiltons "vanishing twin" or Landis´ "I drank whiskey the day before"

Toney also used the "injury" excuse.

And Toney's blood tests show that even after testing positive for the banned substance his levels were STILL lower than the average 30 y/o male.

Duck Dodgers · 09-09-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PrtectWhoNex

At the end of the day when its all said and done all roads leads to the state penitentiary in the sport a baaxin. They need to step up to the plate and take the test imo

No affleet works harder than Ibeabuchi. He's a dog, he's a gorilla, he's a dog. He's also a gorilla.

Malden · 09-09-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien

Pretty much everyone caught has used some excuse - an "injury" being the most common. It's bullshit, like you say, Toney used it, twice!

Contador's "contaminated beef" is a favourite.

I think Landis actually said at first he has a naturally high testosterone, yet changed his story when they told him the testosterone they found was synthetic.

I hate these cheats man, all of them. They destroy any credibility within the sport. Tennis is one of the worst at the moment, but their testing is a big joke.

Oh yeah,, completely forgot Contadope

Probably because they keep postponing his hearing..

Landis at first said it was because of a high amount of whiskey comsumption, then that it was naturally high, and then they found out it was synthetic.

Also had Raimundas Rumsas´s wife saying: "It is for my sick grand mother" when there was found huge amounts of doping substances in her car (While in France with her husband for the Tour de France

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The second time, Toney actually said that he was set up and someone had tampered with his water bottle

And that was agaisnt "The Great" Danny Batchelder..

Rio Ferdinand made one of the best indirect confessions ever by not showing up for a test ..

Couldnt agree more that the cheats needs to get out. It hurts the sports and the other competitors. Some sports do better than others at finding and sanctioning the cheats (athletics and cycling comes to mind) than others. For example boxing, football/socccer and tennis.

Beatle · 09-09-2011, 06:14 PM

Too many Klitschko nuthuggers on ESB. Vitali's resume is absolute padded rubbish.

Malden · 09-09-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chitownfightfan

And Toney's blood tests show that even after testing positive for the banned substance his levels were STILL lower than the average 30 y/o male.

Its still cheating.

Money7 · 09-09-2011, 06:19 PM

ike by brutal KO within the first 5 seconds... why even ask?!?!?

Jack · 09-09-2011, 06:22 PM

Ibeabuchi has the best two wins, without question. They have a common opponent in Byrd, who Ibeabuchi knocked out and Vitali lost to. Obviously Vitali has never beaten anyone as good as Tua.

Vitali has more depth, Ibeabuchi has more quality. Ibeabuchi was the better fighter.

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09-09-2011, 06:14 PM	#27
Beatle Sheer Analysis ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,317 vCash: 1337	Re: Better Resume: Ike Ibeabuchi or Vitali Klitschko Too many Klitschko nuthuggers on ESB. Vitali's resume is absolute padded rubbish.
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09-09-2011, 06:19 PM	#29
Money7 The Best ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 701 vCash: 1000	Re: Better Resume: Ike Ibeabuchi or Vitali Klitschko ike by brutal KO within the first 5 seconds... why even ask?!?!?
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09-09-2011, 06:22 PM	#30
Jack Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Posts: 11,327 vCash: 15000	Re: Better Resume: Ike Ibeabuchi or Vitali Klitschko Ibeabuchi has the best two wins, without question. They have a common opponent in Byrd, who Ibeabuchi knocked out and Vitali lost to. Obviously Vitali has never beaten anyone as good as Tua. Vitali has more depth, Ibeabuchi has more quality. Ibeabuchi was the better fighter.
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