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Old 09-10-2011, 08:13 AM   #16
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great, great talent.. is there any other sweet pea that moves like fluid out there?
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:15 AM   #17
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All of the defensive greats, (pep, el radar, locche & pea) I think Pernell was the most complete fighter & the best offensively.

Who ever said in this thread he had no power is clueless.
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:17 AM   #18
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Mayweather laughs and smiles when he gets hit.

Pernell doesn't get hit. There's a difference.
He gets hit against R Mayweather, The Cuban and McGirt

But yea, better defensive movement and radar than FMJ
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:22 AM   #19
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A joy to watch. It must have been a ****ing nightmare fighting him. Imagine the frustration, giving it absolutely everything and not landing one clean punch.
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:34 AM   #20
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Why exactly do people rate Duran so highly?
He's the greatest lw of all time. Beat one of the greatest ww's of all time. Fought competitively with one of the greater mw's of all time. Beat barkley coming off of his destruction of the hitman. Has beaten plenty of hof boxers. Fighter of the decade of the 70's. Great longevity.
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:49 AM   #21
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How is sweat pea underrated though? both older and younger posters seem to think he is awesome and rank him very high.
How was he viewed in the 90's? did they love him or was he viewed as boring because he would most likely cruise to a easy ud?
I never said underrated did I i said under apprieciated & i was'nt talking about posters here, it was in the all too obvious generic sense

Pernell was with Lou Duva's Main Events & if he'd been with King it would have been a whole different story as far as to getting the Global recognition he deserved. He was an obsticle that had to be removed & that was removed when Pernell got shafted in the 1st Ramirez fight thus allowing the march of JCC to proceded un-hindered towards the 135 unification & then JCC leapt up & away to 140.
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:56 AM   #22
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Mayweather is a very poor mans Pernell Whitaker
They fight nothing alike. There defenses arent even the same.

The only similarity are they are both black defensively orientated fighters. One's a southpaw, ones orthodox, ones technical, ones fluid.


Seriously you're dumb.
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Old 09-10-2011, 09:03 AM   #23
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Imma new boxing fan, but still rate him very high. Everyone i heard said that he was one of the best modern southpaws
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:14 AM   #24
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Sweet Pea had the reflexes of a cat. His speed, timing and accuracy were amazingly supernatural!
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:50 AM   #25
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They fight nothing alike. There defenses arent even the same.

The only similarity are they are both black defensively orientated fighters. One's a southpaw, ones orthodox, ones technical, ones fluid.


Seriously you're dumb.


Shut it you pathetic nit picking selective hair-splitting squealing flomo***ual bitch, this is a thread for people who now what true boxing ability's all about in it's true difinitive sense & it's not for the likes of shitbags flomo***uals like you who dribble & drool over a real & true fraudster of the modern day ring.

Mayweather is PURE SHIT compared to the all time defensive mastercraftsman in Sweetpea & you never saw sweetpea duck any challenge in his life either, unlike that cherry picking bag of shit mayweather.... Whitaker would dismantle mayweather & pick him apart, he'd humiliate him, floyd would think he's being raped by a boxing octopus It's a Pernell shutout or TKO or disqualification when Floyd jumps out of the ring such would the gulf in class expose mayweather Now **** off
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:56 AM   #26
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pretty good
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:56 AM   #27
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Floyd and Pernell are both defensive masters, but their approach to defence and general style in the ring is quite different.

Floyd always looks really business-like in the ring, he rarely throws combinations, always goes for a safety first approach, mostly uses the shoulder-roll and doesn't really use his jab much. He's very economical, and rarely wastes a single shot. He's very consistent, and while he doesn't often pull any surprises out of his hat, he's so good that it doesn't matter.

Pernell is quite a different fighter. His jab was a key weapon in his arsenal, he loved to throw combinations and keep up a high workrate, and he enjoyed taking risks and improvising in the ring, with a flashier and seemingly more creative approach. He's much looser than Floyd, more prone to unpredictable antics and enjoying himself rather than only focusing on winning.

They're both very good boxers, but I definitely prefer Whitaker. I like how the highlight showcases his versatility -- he can move and frustrate the other guy with his great jab, he can stand in the pocket and throw combinations to smother them while weaving away from return fire, he throws surprisingly good bodyshots for a 'boxer' type, he has great straight-left counters while moving backwards, and while he's a defensive specialist, his offence is pretty good too. He didn't have much power, but he didn't really need it.

On another note, in an interview Floyd once stated that Whitaker is one of the fighters he would have most liked to share a ring with.
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:07 PM   #28
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Whittaker was awesome.

Nunn had some ****ing skill aswel
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Old 09-10-2011, 12:21 PM   #29
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Most certainly one of the greatest regularly filmed fighters in all of history.

From about the mayweather fight to the vasquez fight he was on another level to everyone he fought and was sensationally dominant.

Past prime efforts v rivera, hurtado and de la hoya were fantastic and enough to cement his legacy as an atg.

He never lost until he was completely shot against tito and even then he put up a valiant effort. He got clearly defeated but most of the rounds were competitive.

Had he beaten a prime tito i'd be debating right now whether or not he was as great as roberto duran.

I think as far as natural talent goes, pea is above jones jr.
How did you score his fights with Rivera? I'm making them my next fights to be re-watched and given a final score.
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Old 09-10-2011, 01:19 PM   #30
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Seriously. JCC is throwing all he's ****ing got and Pernell Whitaker just walks out of the corner shrugging. Amazing fighter.
That was Ramirez.
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