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vBookie Event: Mayweather vs. Ortiz (Boxing)
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Mayweather vs. Ortiz (Boxing)

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Outcome Odds Total Bets Total Staked
Floyd Mayweather Jr. 1/5 F (0.20) 218 435300 WIN!
Victor Ortiz 35/6 (5.83) 78 10284  
Draw 50/1 (50.00) 20 403  
Over 9.5 rounds 4/9 (0.44) 64 23802  
Under 9.5 rounds 11/5 (2.20) 59 6709 WIN!

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Old 09-12-2011, 08:59 PM   #16
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All in, 12591, on Floyd.

If he wins, it's another 2500+ vCash for me.

If he loses, I won't care because I'll be too happy that he lost.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:19 PM   #17
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2700 on Pretty Boy.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:10 PM   #18
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:52 PM   #19
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All in, 12591, on Floyd.

If he wins, it's another 2500+ vCash for me.

If he loses, I won't care because I'll be too happy that he lost.
i feel the same way even left myself an extra 1000 to get back on track
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:33 AM   #20
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i feel the same way even left myself an extra 1000 to get back on track
I'm just the same. Risking 20g to gain 4, leaving myself only 500 vcash if Ortiz springs the upset. But if that happens, it'll be worth losing all my vcash.

And the last 500 on Ortiz as well.

If Floyd wins, as I expect, I make 3500 vcash profit and end up with 24,000. If Ortiz wins I lose big, but at least the 500 bet on him returns almost 3k to start over with.

I prefer that rather than making 4000 profit if/when Floyd wins, while risking ending up with only 500 left to rebuild with if he loses.


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Old 09-13-2011, 03:51 AM   #21
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Stuck 200 on the under because I think floyd can KO him within 6
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Old 09-13-2011, 07:04 AM   #22
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I'm generally of the opinion that trying to straddle like that is mostly a waste of time. Let me bust out some math.

If the fight goes over:
360 bet * .44 odds = 158.4 gained
Cash lost betting the under = 250 loss
Net result: 91.6 loss

If it goes under:
250 bet * 2.2 odds = 550 gained
Cash lost betting the over = 360
Net result: 190 gain

Total wagered on over/under = 610
Potential gain = 190
Potential loss = 91.6

So you win 190 if the fight goes under, but if you lose, you lose about 91 vCash. What would happen if you took that same 91 vCash and just bet it on the under straight up?

If it goes over:
Cash lost betting the under = 91

If it goes under:
91 bet * 2.2 odds = 200.2 gain

Total wagered on the over/under = 91
Potential gain = 200.2
Potential loss = 91

You actually get a slightly larger return on the same risk if you just pick one and bet, and you also leave several hundred more vCash free to bet on other things.
What do you make of my strategy outlined above? IMO the mindset changes as the value of the wagers increases.

I have 20,000 on Mayweather and 500 on Ortiz. Whichever result happens, I lose a bet. When Mayweather wins I'm happy to profit a solid 3500 vcash rather than 4000, but if the underdog springs the upset I'm not happy to leave myself open to starting over with a 500 bankroll when I can just as easily have a 2900 bankroll simply by placing a small side bet.

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Old 09-13-2011, 02:09 PM   #23
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I'm throwing a hunred on the under dog, just cause I always bet on the underdog with these odds. I dont think Victor stands a chance though.
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Old 09-13-2011, 02:55 PM   #24
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All in on Money. And a little on the under 9.5

Floyd is stopping this kid

He knows what's up
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:39 PM   #25
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All in on Money. And a little on the under 9.5

Floyd is stopping this kid

He knows what's up
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Old 09-13-2011, 08:21 PM   #26
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I'm generally of the opinion that trying to straddle like that is mostly a waste of time. Let me bust out some math.

If the fight goes over:
360 bet * .44 odds = 158.4 gained
Cash lost betting the under = 250 loss
Net result: 91.6 loss

If it goes under:
250 bet * 2.2 odds = 550 gained
Cash lost betting the over = 360
Net result: 190 gain

Total wagered on over/under = 610
Potential gain = 190
Potential loss = 91.6

So you win 190 if the fight goes under, but if you lose, you lose about 91 vCash. What would happen if you took that same 91 vCash and just bet it on the under straight up?

If it goes over:
Cash lost betting the under = 91

If it goes under:
91 bet * 2.2 odds = 200.2 gain

Total wagered on the over/under = 91
Potential gain = 200.2
Potential loss = 91

You actually get a slightly larger return on the same risk if you just pick one and bet, and you also leave several hundred more vCash free to bet on other things.
Nice.

Here's how it went down for me lol.

Well first off I need to say it's not exactly 0.44 for the over, it's 4/9. I suffer from round vCash numbers OCD, so 360 is actually 160 lol. I had 769 available, and wanted a round output combination that I could afford. Couldn't go higher than 360(+160) and 250(+550) with 150 reserve. I do get the math related point of only spending 91 to get the same kind of output numbers, but in my own little world lol...

769 vs
over - 520+150 = 670
under - 800+150 = 950

I want to see Floyd back up the shit talk and stop Ortiz before the 10th, so the 950 would be nice, almost 200 over baseline. On the other hand, if the over wins, I'm only 100 under baseline.

Your method works. Betting on Floyd (1/5) looks like this...

769 vs
Floyd (67 and over (0) - 812
Floyd (67 and under (91) - 291+812 = 1103

So over baseline for both. I just put 10K on Floyd though so borderline boring, and with my round number OCD shit I didn't care much about what happened to that 7% of my stack as long as my vCash ended in a 0.

Crazy money
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Old 09-14-2011, 01:20 AM   #27
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So over baseline for both. I just put 10K on Floyd though so borderline boring, and with my round number OCD shit I didn't care much about what happened to that 7% of my stack as long as my vCash ended in a 0.

Crazy money


I'm the same. I want my vcash total to move in increments of 500. If I win 2697 on a bet, I'll bet 197 on some stupid shit that I don't even know anything about, because I want a nice round number as my total.

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Old 09-14-2011, 01:56 AM   #28
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All in for Money Mayweather. His name is money for a reason.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:49 AM   #29
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3900 on floyd
84 on ortiz
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