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Old 09-25-2011, 02:27 PM   #16
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I watched duran vs buchanan the otherday... around mid-way through the fight they are still just beating the crap outta each other and getting no where really with it. It highlights one of the reasons I don't like most fights (most not all) below welterweight.

So much speed you can barely see the punches and when they do land they don't appear to do anything to the other guy.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:58 PM   #17
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Calzaghe vs Hopkins.......
hard to watch but that's not a great fight. shit, i would barely call it a fight at all. more like bowling...or darts
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:36 PM   #18
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I've never seen Mancini-Kim and have no desire to see it.

Benn-McClellan and Eubank-Watson 2 are difficult to watch. To a lesser extent, Quiroga-Anifowoshe.
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:46 PM   #19
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Frazier-Quarry I

Gritty performance by Quarry but he really took a pounding after rd 2...
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:57 PM   #20
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The Thrilla in Manila tops my list, too, especially the last two rounds. I always rooted for Joe Frazier and to see him lose like that after such a stellar effort is hard to watch. I only wish that it could have gone the limit, but I'm not out to second-guess Eddie Futch.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:21 AM   #21
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The Thrilla, for sure.

Also, Holmes-Shavers II - hate seeing my man Earnie take those shots. Same thing with his Cobb fight.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:56 AM   #22
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I watched duran vs buchanan the otherday... around mid-way through the fight they are still just beating the crap outta each other and getting no where really with it. It highlights one of the reasons I don't like most fights (most not all) below welterweight.

So much speed you can barely see the punches and when they do land they don't appear to do anything to the other guy.
Well I think thats because they have two of the greatest chins ever, ever think of that ?

No one can tell me that the great little guys can't puch, I'm 6ft 1 and 172 Ibs and I would'nt like to take a punch off one of these little mad bastards



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Old 09-26-2011, 03:17 AM   #23
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I like a good scrap as much as anyone. Two of my very favorite fights are Barrera vs Morales I and Duran vs Leonard I. But even during Barrera vs Morales I, there's a point where I'm thinking to myself "these great warriors are giving too much".

Boxing is a brutal sport. It's one of the few that is not only life-threatening in an immediate sense, but there's a component of gradual deterioration as well. Then again, the sports best moments often depict the all-time great spirits rallying some inhuman mental strength within themselves and overcoming grueling circumstances. How are we to find out who's best unless we let these fighters give their all?

But here comes the difference for me -- Gatti-Ward was never about who was best. This was not a case of two fighters with huge followings who clashed when they were matched. This was a case of two fighters with porous defense and incredible toughness who would showcase their determination in the face of a bludgeoning. They gathered a crowd that tuned in for the bloodlust.

There was a kind of sadistic element to it. Especially when they were asked to do it again for big money. It's the darker side of boxing, the side that enjoys seeing Chavez punish an outclassed Haugen, the side that has smiling eyes instead of solemn ones when viewing Ali vs Frazier III, the side I'd rather have nothing to do with.

I mean, I can see Frazier vs Ali was about pride. And Barrera vs Morales was about two of the best in the weightclass squaring off, plus the difference in roots and personalities.

But Ward and Gatti actually liked eachother. They did it twice more, providing spectacle for money, sacrificing some of their health in the process. Who won was not the point. The sport of boxing was not the point. It was about bleeding flesh and grimacing faces. I have too much respect for boxers and what they sacrifice to condone it.
I see what your saying and thanks for such an excellent reply.

Personally I enjoyed Gatti-Ward for maybe some of the reasons you don't.

I liked that neither was much more skilled than the other so the fight was stripped down to the bare essence of heart and power. Both men had such indominatable wills and competitive natures that it provided some truly amazing ebbs and flows as each was determined to get the last shot in.

Personally I found it brave,noble and wonderful and a perfect example of why boxing can be bloody beautiful. Everything that a huge fight like Mayweather-Ortiz wasn't.
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:33 AM   #24
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:42 AM   #25
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Well I think thats because they have two of the greatest chins ever, ever think of that ?

No one can tell me that the great little guys can't puch, I'm 6ft 1 and 172 Ibs and I would'nt like to take a punch off one of these little mad bastards



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Hey man, the OP asked which fights we thought. Not only did I give my answer, but I went into detail..

Basically any fight were the fighters can more Chin then pop is not near as fun to watch except for the technical aspects and the size and speed of the much lighter weights tend to make it difficult to see the technical aspects.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:00 AM   #26
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I liked that neither was much more skilled than the other so the fight was stripped down to the bare essence of heart and power. Both men had such indominatable wills and competitive natures that it provided some truly amazing ebbs and flows as each was determined to get the last shot in.
Yep. I think the Graziano-Zale series served a very similar role in the eyes of the people at the time. Not the most skilled operators in there, but huge hearts and some brass balls.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:19 AM   #27
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gatti ward 1 is my favourite fight of all time but this post is tremendous and i very much understand your point. well said
I wish it was Holyfield who said this.
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:09 PM   #28
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Old 09-27-2011, 03:52 PM   #29
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Yes, Thrilla in Manilla for the same reason you stated. (strange, I was just thinking about that yesterday). Also any fight (and there's been a few big ones over the past 25 years) where I suspect that the fight was either choreographed between the fighters, or where I suspect one fighter took a dive
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