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Old 09-27-2011, 11:07 AM   #1
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Default What was Joe Louis's best "bum of the month" performance?

I think it was definitely this one, Louis-Godoy II

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SK_N7NBIg[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzZUwFvF6s[/ame]

I like Arturo Godoy. The man had a good record and a difficult style for any boxer to deal with, coming in low and spoiling up front. As anybody with boxing experience knows, utilizing any decent power punching is a ***** when you dont have space to put leverage on your blows. Louis had issues the first time around making it work. In this one he puts on a clinic showing how to destroy a crouching fighter, jabbing at a distance initially to swell and damage and then letting Godoy come in and locking heads with him Chavez style, trading uppercuts and hooks to the head and body. I especially like how he leans in when he see's Arturo's left over the top coming in up close and avoids it. The snappy right above the ear he uses to end it is magnificent as well. You can't say Godoy didn't try his heart out... Poor *******

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Old 09-27-2011, 11:15 AM   #2
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Many of those to choose from.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:03 PM   #3
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I disagree with Godoy being a full-on bum....... I don't know much about Godoy, cuz I never cared to really research him, but he did give Louis a good tussle 2 X in 1940.... Bums don't do that......

If I were to pick a bum that Louis looked great in, I'll go with Jack Roper.... I care less if Roper was some local favorite of the fans and had won some fights, he was hopeless against Louis in getting parked inside of round 1....

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Old 09-27-2011, 01:07 PM   #4
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Default Re: What was Joe Louis's best "bum of the month" performance?

I never said Godoy was a bum. I think he was a great contender actually, and would give many other champs issues, like Ali and Holmes for example. He was certainly included in the collection of fighters called the bum of the month club though.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:28 PM   #5
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I never said Godoy was a bum. I think he was a great contender actually, and would give many other champs issues, like Ali and Holmes for example. He was certainly included in the collection of fighters called the bum of the month club though.

"was certainly included in the collection of fighters called the bum of the month club"

No. He wasn't. He fought Louis in Feb and June of 1940 in New York. In December, out of outstanding contenders, Louis' management announced that he would fight the best out there in their home towns. This is what one sportswriter dubbed the bum of the month club. Earlier challengers such as Harry Thomas or Jack Roper were not part of that.

The "bums"

Dec 1940--Al McCoy
Jan 1941--Red Burman
Feb 1941--Gus Dorazio
March 1941--Abe Simon
April 1941--Tony Musto
May 1941--Buddy Baer

Louis fought Billy Conn in June back in New York, but no one considered Conn one of the bums.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:44 PM   #6
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"was certainly included in the collection of fighters called the bum of the month club"

No. He wasn't. He fought Louis in Feb and June of 1940 in New York. In December, out of outstanding contenders, Louis' management announced that he would fight the best out there in their home towns. This is what one sportswriter dubbed the bum of the month club. Earlier challengers such as Harry Thomas or Jack Roper were not part of that.

The "bums"

Dec 1940--Al McCoy
Jan 1941--Red Burman
Feb 1941--Gus Dorazio
March 1941--Abe Simon
April 1941--Tony Musto
May 1941--Buddy Baer

Louis fought Billy Conn in June back in New York, but no one considered Conn one of the bums.
mccoy, simon and baer weren't technically bums either. the bum of the month club is usually used informally to discuss louis' string of defenses after the schmeling rematch and before the war
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:47 PM   #7
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This was the ultimate "bum of the month" fight:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBiyX9oDgNE[/ame]


Paychek, aside from the comical name (truly a paycheck for Louis), looked like a man thrown in a lion's cage.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:03 PM   #8
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mccoy, simon and baer weren't technically bums either. the bum of the month club is usually used informally to discuss louis' string of defenses after the schmeling rematch and before the war
That's typically how i think of it, I guess, but Morbius might have the historical accuracy of it now that i'm reading more. I always looked at it like you have.
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That's typically how i think of it, I guess, but Morbius might have the historical accuracy of it now that i'm reading more. I always looked at it like you have.
true. i had no idea where it was officially coined, thanks for that morbius
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:13 PM   #10
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I certainly agree that Buddy Baer, at least, was not a "bum" as far as historical contenders go. With his size and punch, he would have to be considered a threat to almost any champion, even with his flaws.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:20 PM   #11
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I don't think Dorazio was a bum either. Scored some upsets against Pastor and Baksi. I'd like to think he was more of an underperformer at the top level than a bum(****ing hate the word).
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Maybe Paychck. The Ko was a classic one.
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I certainly agree that Buddy Baer, at least, was not a "bum" as far as historical contenders go. With his size and punch, he would have to be considered a threat to almost any champion, even with his flaws.
I second that emotion.... Bud Baer nor Abe Simon are / were bums of the 40s division.... But, Bud Baer froze like a snowman for Louis come the '42 rematch..... Bud Baer never learned how to parry a punch or move his head..... He was there to be nailed.... Christ, Louis couldn't miss on that night...

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