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Old 12-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #31
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Methink capfunds' about to blow a gasket.
Nah, some people are just some dumbasses.

They hang off of Floyd's nuts, and don't know shit about boxing.

It just happens that their hero picks a guy that can't beat any legitimate welterweight, yet they think he deserves to be fighter of the year.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:10 PM   #32
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I have a hard time with these types of arguments.

They are different fighters, with different styles, fighting different opponents. It makes comparing them on equal footing impossible.

It's like saying Porsche is better than Ferrari or vice-versa. There's no clear way of quantifying what is better.

If Hatton had PBF hurt several times, or knocked him down, then PBF came back in a gutty performance to win, we'd be saying "Wow what a performance! He came back and showed true grit and heart". It's not his fault that he doesn't allow this stuff to happen, and often makes his opponents look amatuerish.

Pavlik, PBF, and Cotto all performed fantastic this last year. You can't fault any of them for their performances, since they all fought great fighters and came out on top. Each of them deserves all the accolades reaped upon them, and it's just a matter of who you like best.
Hatton made HIMSELF look amateurish.

He didn't do the things that intelligent pressure fighters are supposed to do.

Did Floyd have any part to do with this..........OF COURSE!!!

He's an excellent boxer.

The point is though is that Hatton didn't fight any boxers, since Kosta, therefore he didn't have the experience coming into this fight or the knowledge about how to fight boxers intelligently.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:13 PM   #33
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I did say that because I wanted Hatton to win because Floyd was taking another easy way out. If you wanted to be a bitch about things and dig up threads, why don't you dig up my post after post after post about how Ricky couldn't beat any legit welterweights and Floyd chrerrypicked him.

Oh yeah........

You're dumbass knows nothing about boxing.

You're just one of those kids that hangs from Floyd's nuts.

You probably think that Cotto would be the same outcome as the Hatton fight.

Yet, you still can't answer a simple question.
I just did.

You picked Hatton to win. So obviously Hatton was a threat to the BEST 147 fighter.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:13 PM   #34
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Pavlik should be Fighter of the year.
He came outta nowhere and made a HUGE statement KOing every opponent then KOing the champ Taylor.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:13 PM   #35
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Good work! This is great!

You made my day by bumping the other thread.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:14 PM   #36
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I just did.

You picked Hatton to win. So obviously Hatton was a threat to the BEST 147 fighter.
Eze, give me your dumbass opinion about who Hatton could beat at 147 and HOW.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:15 PM   #37
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Good work! This is great!
You too, Pimp C, give me your dumbass opinion about who Hatton could beat and How?

Oh yeah, you don't know SHIT about boxing, so you can't.

But entertain me anyway.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:16 PM   #38
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Eze, give me your dumbass opinion about who Hatton could beat at 147 and HOW.

DUDE I just told you.


You said Hatton would beat Floyd.

Floyd is the best at 147. I dont need to give any other opinion except what you gave about Hatton going to beat THE BEST at 147.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:18 PM   #39
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DUDE I just told you.


You said Hatton would beat Floyd.

Floyd is the best at 147. I dont need to give any other opinion except what you gave about Hatton going to beat THE BEST at 147.
Eze, what the **** is the theme of this thread?

FIGHTER of the YEAR right?

So, in order to be fighter of the year, you can't cherry pick opponents.

Floyd did.......so.......obviously you think Hatton can beat other top legit 147 lbers.

So again, give me your dumbass opinion on who and how,
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:20 PM   #40
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Bump it, but before you bump that, bump all the threads I made before and after that, BEFORE THE FIGHT, where I said that Ricky couldn't beat any top welterweights.

And yeah, I did make a thread about how I changed my opinion and how I wanted Hatton to win.

And by the way, you know shit about styles.

Your dumbass can't even determine the difference between Cotto and Hatton, arguing that it would be the same fight.

In fact, I remember talking boxing about you way back in the day about why Margarito would beat Floyd, and all you could say is......."uhh, he's faster."

So don't act like you didn't aquire most of your informations from me and other posters and try to discredit my knowledge. I knew Hatton would lose.

The guy I workout with actually bet he would lose in the 10th round and won $500. So don't act like you told me something I didn't already know.

You think I'm gonna learn something off this forum that I haven't or can't learn from him?

Not gonna happen.

Point is, Hatton and boxers don't mix.

Hatton didn't do anything right, and he hadn't fought any competition worth mentioning that has ANYTHING to do with Floyd's style.

It was a cherry picked opponent, but the that's not even the point of this thread anyway.........the point is.........FLOYD DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE FIGHTER OF THE YEAR.

Reason, and CONTROVERSIAL WIN and an OPPONENT that can't beat ANY TOP WELTERS for the WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.

If he deserves to be fighter of the year, why was Hatton so ****in easy? You said it would be an easy fight before it even started, so you just discredited yourself.

If you think he deserves to be fighter of the year based off of this performance, than it's YOU that doesn't know boxing.

Would he look that good against Cotto, Mosley, Williams, or Margarito?

Hell NO.
More desperation by you I see. I'm not somebody you can pull this kinda shit on Cap. I brought many reasons why margo couldn't beat PBF several times in my time here at ESB But just in case you forgot let me refresh your memory. Margo can't beat PBF because one he has terrible footwork he's too plooding. You have to be able to cut the ring off against PBF if you can't you don't stand a chance not to mention he has to set his feet to punch. He throws too many wide looping shots. Against a master counter-puncher like PBF you must throw straight punches and jab he doesn't do this. He's to slow. PBF will beat Margo to the punch every single time. Poor defense against an accurate puncher like PBF you must have good defense if you don't you end up like Hatton did on saturday. PBF would stick and move on slow as Margo all night long making him look clumsy in the ring and making his world class workrate drop by 50% or more. He can't keep up with PBF and would get countered to hell and back and wouldn't win a single round against PBF he would get a boxing lesson it's really that simple. Toughness and workrate will get you past people who stand in front of you and are there to be hit and sometimes it didn't do that see the Jones and Santos fights for reference. But against the elites especially against a slick defensive counter puncher you need more and Margo simply doesn't have it.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:23 PM   #41
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:25 PM   #42
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Eze, what the **** is the theme of this thread?

FIGHTER of the YEAR right?

So, in order to be fighter of the year, you can't cherry pick opponents.

Floyd did.......so.......obviously you think Hatton can beat other top legit 147 lbers.

So again, give me your dumbass opinion on who and how,

he cherry picked a guy you thought could beat him
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:30 PM   #43
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he cherry picked a guy you thought could beat him

Exactly.
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:01 PM   #44
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Damn capfunds, your life must suck pretty bad. Every time I see a thread started by you, it's the same shit each time. You must be (you sure as hell sound like it) a miserable boxing fan because every fight you watch, the guy you pick looses.

Ease up, alright, you're gonna have a blood vessel pop in your brain of something.
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Old 12-11-2007, 09:11 PM   #45
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Not a Floyd fan but I must give him credit for doing what he did to an elite fighter eventhough, Ricky isn't a natural welter. Don't care what anyone says,he still struggled against Oscar and barley got by.He must fight and beat Paul Williams to be recognized as a great fighter. Just my opinion.
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