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Old 09-30-2011, 08:34 AM   #31
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Yeah I agree with everything you say there. It is what it is.
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Gav, it has been many years since Mundine was actually "too much risk vs reward" for the top fighters at SMW or MW.

The likes of Cotto, Pavlik, wouldn't have even known who he was, same for Cotto, Margo, Pacman, Floyd now.

Him losing to Wood killed his value here in Australia because the circus finally ground to a halt and he realised the last of the Aussie punters he had fooled had finally seen through his act.

His value overseas has never been high because he's never ventured overseas to create a profile for himself.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:43 AM   #32
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He wont go to USA because of comments he made post 9/11, the media would bash him hard and he knows it, the interview he did would be replayed and he would not be accepted very well in USA. I personally dont think he will EVER fight in america unless of course Phil Austin wants to give him a free shot at the IBO title against someone who normally fights a few divisions below what Mundine is fighting at.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:18 PM   #33
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He wont go to USA because of comments he made post 9/11, the media would bash him hard and he knows it, the interview he did would be replayed and he would not be accepted very well in USA. I personally dont think he will EVER fight in america unless of course Phil Austin wants to give him a free shot at the IBO title against someone who normally fights a few divisions below what Mundine is fighting at.
Agree totally with you on that one
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Old 10-01-2011, 07:09 PM   #34
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He wont go to USA because of comments he made post 9/11, the media would bash him hard and he knows it, the interview he did would be replayed and he would not be accepted very well in USA. I personally dont think he will EVER fight in america
Totally agree. Its a PR nightmare and Khoder knows it. Its amazing how one little slip of the tongue could have such a huge impact on his career. Had he not said those brief words, who know how his career may have panned out with opportunities in USA looming. If I recall correctly one of the sanctioning bodies even refused to let Mundine fight for their title...
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Old 10-01-2011, 07:45 PM   #35
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He said that dumb shit so he would have an excuse for never fighting in the US
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Old 10-01-2011, 07:46 PM   #36
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Totally agree. Its a PR nightmare and Khoder knows it. Its amazing how one little slip of the tongue could have such a huge impact on his career. Had he not said those brief words, who know how his career may have panned out with opportunities in USA looming. If I recall correctly one of the sanctioning bodies even refused to let Mundine fight for their title...
WBC. The Ottke fight was already set so the IBF couldn't do anything about that fight.
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Old 10-01-2011, 08:30 PM   #37
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He said that dumb shit so he would have an excuse for never fighting in the US
It was not a dumb thing to say. I would agree with what he said and so would any reasonable educated person as compared to uneducated person such as yourself. It was purely a media beat up.

Let me refresh your memory. In summary he said something to the gist of "knowing how the Americans have treated muslims in the past, I would understand why the terrorists would react the way they did". There is nothing controversial, racist or anti-american regarding that statement.
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Old 10-01-2011, 08:42 PM   #38
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it smacks of ignorance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

any educated person would pull their head in, imo.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:00 PM   #39
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It was not a dumb thing to say. I would agree with what he said and so would any reasonable educated person as compared to uneducated person such as yourself. It was purely a media beat up.

Let me refresh your memory. In summary he said something to the gist of "knowing how the Americans have treated muslims in the past, I would understand why the terrorists would react the way they did". There is nothing controversial, racist or anti-american regarding that statement.
The timing was atrocious though.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:07 PM   #40
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It was not a dumb thing to say. I would agree with what he said and so would any reasonable educated person as compared to uneducated person such as yourself. It was purely a media beat up.

Let me refresh your memory. In summary he said something to the gist of "knowing how the Americans have treated muslims in the past, I would understand why the terrorists would react the way they did". There is nothing controversial, racist or anti-american regarding that statement.
Whether you agree with what Mandy said or not, it was a very very dumb thing to blurt out to the media.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:12 PM   #41
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It was not a dumb thing to say. I would agree with what he said and so would any reasonable educated person as compared to uneducated person such as yourself. It was purely a media beat up.

Let me refresh your memory. In summary he said something to the gist of "knowing how the Americans have treated muslims in the past, I would understand why the terrorists would react the way they did". There is nothing controversial, racist or anti-american regarding that statement.
Here is what he said.
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HE very nearly lost his shot with the IBF bet he wishes he did now. Not that controversial if you said it now but right after an act that killed 3000 innocent people c,mon man.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:15 PM   #42
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It was not a dumb thing to say. I would agree with what he said and so would any reasonable educated person as compared to uneducated person such as yourself. It was purely a media beat up.

Let me refresh your memory. In summary he said something to the gist of "knowing how the Americans have treated muslims in the past, I would understand why the terrorists would react the way they did". There is nothing controversial, racist or anti-american regarding that statement.
This is what he actually said....and it was a dumb thing to say



"It's not about terrorism, it's about fighting for God's laws and America's brought it upon themselves for what they've done,"

Kinda up there with someone telling a Dad who backed over his kid with a 4 wheel Drive.... "It's your own fault for living in the city and owning a 4 wheel Drive"

And you musta been swallowing way too much of Mundine's spoof (You need to spit...not swallow)...to even use the word "educated" in the same post as Mundine's name
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:19 PM   #43
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It was not a dumb thing to say. I would agree with what he said and so would any reasonable educated person as compared to uneducated person such as yourself. It was purely a media beat up.

Let me refresh your memory. In summary he said something to the gist of "knowing how the Americans have treated muslims in the past, I would understand why the terrorists would react the way they did". There is nothing controversial, racist or anti-american regarding that statement.

Let me refresh your memory actually, the comments weren't the gist of what you stated above, they were -


ďThey call it an act of terrorism, but if you can understand religion, and our way of life, itís not about terrorism. Itís about fighting for Godís law, and Americaís brought it upon themselves."



What the **** isn't controversial, or more to the point, stupid about that statement? What isn't anti-American about that?

I'd consider myself a reasonably educated person and I take this a completely dumb thing to say as you so put it before. I would think there'd be more people taking that position than yours were you thought it was well justified.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:25 PM   #44
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Let me refresh your memory actually, the comments weren't the gist of what you stated above, they were -


ďThey call it an act of terrorism, but if you can understand religion, and our way of life, itís not about terrorism. Itís about fighting for Godís law, and Americaís brought it upon themselves."



What the **** isn't controversial, or more to the point, stupid about that statement? What isn't anti-American about that?

I'd consider myself a reasonably educated person and I take this a completely dumb thing to say as you so put it before. I would think there'd be more people taking that position than yours were you thought it was well justified.
Why don't you go and dig up the complete verbatim answer to the leading question the journalist asked? Talk about taking the pieces you want to make your point you stupid piece of shit. Do you know about all the ****ed up things the USA has done in the past? Go jump into the nearest empty swimming pool - head first preferrably.
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Old 10-01-2011, 09:34 PM   #45
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[quote=donkeyking;10855066]Why don't you go and dig up the complete verbatim answer to the leading question the journalist asked? Talk about taking the pieces you want to make your point you stupid piece of shit. Do you know about all the ****ed up things the USA has done in the past? Go jump into the nearest empty swimming pool - head first preferrably.[/quote]

You've obviously tried it already.....Doen't seem to have helped you much......................

Might I suggest...... Try the deep end (with no water) next time.
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