Ali explains "The Anchor Punch"

Longhhorn71 · 12-11-2007, 07:25 PM

Liston experienced it first hand:

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yancey · 12-11-2007, 09:46 PM

The "anchor" punch was bullshit, it "couldn't have crushed a grape" per writer Jimmy Cannon who saw it.

It was a dive.

Langford · 12-11-2007, 10:04 PM

you gotta love Ali, man.

I also have a DVD clip of him talking about it right after the fight and he is also saying that he learned the anchor punch from someone close to Jack Johnson.

Liston was a terrible actor. And Joe Walcott was a terrible ref and Nat should have not had any say in the outcome of the fight.

It all comes down to Neutral corner rule and the ref count anyway.

rekcutnevets · 12-11-2007, 10:05 PM

Did anyone see Liston's head snap when the punch landed? I did. Ali also landed a left uppercut before it landes.

I wonder if Liston felt the uppercut, got caught flush with the weak right, and just felt those were the two to go on. He should have gotten up, and gone down again after some more action, if he really wanted to sell that fight.

yancey · 12-11-2007, 10:11 PM

I was a young boy when that fight happened, but I remember reading a boxing magazine sometime thereafter where the writer went into a lengthy explanation likening the "anchor" punch to some sort of karate chop, with "torquing action" or some such nonsense.

What a fucking joke.

Wish I had kept those mags.

Longhhorn71 · 12-11-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Langford

you gotta love Ali, man.

I also have a DVD clip of him talking about it right after the fight and he is also saying that he learned the anchor punch from someone close to Jack Johnson.

Liston was a terrible actor. And Joe Walcott was a terrible ref and Nat should have not had any say in the outcome of the fight.

It all comes down to Neutral corner rule and the ref count anyway.

Ali's spin is it was an "anchor punch" he learned from Stepin Fetchit, actor

Langford · 12-11-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhhorn71

Ali's spin is it was an "anchor punch" he learned from Stepin Fetchit, actor

was he the one that learned it from Johnson?

Longhhorn71 · 12-11-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Langford

was he the one that learned it from Johnson?

I think so...the time period is right.

SuzieQ49 · 12-11-2007, 11:42 PM

liston had a granite chin. that anchor punch couldnt have felled my great gam gam. it was a dive.

12-12-2007, 06:50 AM

It's bollocks.
I have the immediate post-fight interview in the ring, and Ali doesn't say anything about an anchor punch.
He watches the replay and talks about his speed. What I do remember him saying at one point he's shouting to his entourage "Dont say nuthin'!". In other words, keep quiet, let me handle this.

Because they all knew Liston had thrown the fight.

fg2227 · 12-12-2007, 10:44 AM

I'm a massive Ali fan, however liston defo through the fight. Question is why, i think the muslims got to him.

zicas · 12-12-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fg2227

I'm a massive Ali fan, however liston defo through the fight. Question is why, i think the muslims got to him.

Yeah he must have faced some death threats. He was mob-connected too however.. whole thing was strange

enquirer · 12-12-2007, 11:48 AM

Anchor punch? More like the 'fishing rod punch' the way he reeled folks in with that one......

Anchor butter!

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 06:12 PM

The good ol' corkscrew.

Sizzle · 12-12-2007, 06:31 PM

Fleischer said it was "the old Kid McCoy corkscrew", whereas Ali claimed it was a punch he learned from Jack Johnson...

12-11-2007, 07:25 PM	#1
Longhhorn71 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 13,945 vCash: 1000	Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" Liston experienced it first hand: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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12-11-2007, 09:46 PM	#2
yancey Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 486 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" The "anchor" punch was bullshit, it "couldn't have crushed a grape" per writer Jimmy Cannon who saw it. It was a dive.
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Langford Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 490 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" you gotta love Ali, man. I also have a DVD clip of him talking about it right after the fight and he is also saying that he learned the anchor punch from someone close to Jack Johnson. Liston was a terrible actor. And Joe Walcott was a terrible ref and Nat should have not had any say in the outcome of the fight. It all comes down to Neutral corner rule and the ref count anyway.
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12-11-2007, 10:05 PM	#4
rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,550 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" Did anyone see Liston's head snap when the punch landed? I did. Ali also landed a left uppercut before it landes. I wonder if Liston felt the uppercut, got caught flush with the weak right, and just felt those were the two to go on. He should have gotten up, and gone down again after some more action, if he really wanted to sell that fight.
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12-11-2007, 10:11 PM	#5
yancey Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 486 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" I was a young boy when that fight happened, but I remember reading a boxing magazine sometime thereafter where the writer went into a lengthy explanation likening the "anchor" punch to some sort of karate chop, with "torquing action" or some such nonsense. What a fucking joke. Wish I had kept those mags.
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12-11-2007, 11:42 PM	#9
SuzieQ49 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 12,959 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" liston had a granite chin. that anchor punch couldnt have felled my great gam gam. it was a dive.
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12-12-2007, 06:50 AM	#10
Sonny's jab Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" It's bollocks. I have the immediate post-fight interview in the ring, and Ali doesn't say anything about an anchor punch. He watches the replay and talks about his speed. What I do remember him saying at one point he's shouting to his entourage "Dont say nuthin'!". In other words, keep quiet, let me handle this. Because they all knew Liston had thrown the fight.
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12-12-2007, 10:44 AM	#11
fg2227 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,462 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" I'm a massive Ali fan, however liston defo through the fight. Question is why, i think the muslims got to him.
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enquirer Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,179 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" Anchor punch? More like the 'fishing rod punch' the way he reeled folks in with that one...... Anchor butter!
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JohnThomas1 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 12,184 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" The good ol' corkscrew.
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12-12-2007, 06:31 PM	#15
Sizzle Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 659 vCash: 1000	Re: Ali explains "The Anchor Punch" Fleischer said it was "the old Kid McCoy corkscrew", whereas Ali claimed it was a punch he learned from Jack Johnson...
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