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Old 12-11-2007, 10:18 PM   #1
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Default splitting boxing purse 60% to winner 40% to loser. can it be done?

Recently Roy Jones said he would fight Hopkins If the winner gets 60% and loser gets 40%. There were also other times when fighters tried to negotiate a fight like that but is that even possible? Has it ever be done ?
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:19 PM   #2
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Default Re: splitting boxing purse 60% to winner 40% to loser. can it be done?

Id even say 70-30...but that would be too fair
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:20 PM   #3
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Of course it can and has been done.

It plenty of fights the split is 66 1/3 - 33 1/3, as in they both get say $1 to show, and the winner gets another $1 to win
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:27 PM   #4
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Of course it can and has been done.

It plenty of fights the split is 66 1/3 - 33 1/3, as in they both get say $1 to show, and the winner gets another $1 to win
in what fights has that happened ? i dont think in any big ones. it would probably make for better fights tho
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:33 PM   #5
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in what fights has that happened ? i dont think in any big ones. it would probably make for better fights tho
Almost all small fights, of course now that I said it I can't think of any big fights off the top of my head, but what I'm saying is its totally contractually possible.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:35 PM   #6
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No the winner should not get the most. The champion should get the most, and if it is not for a title, then the person who draws the most should get the most, because he is bringing more to the fight.

This is how it already is, and in my opinion, it needs to stay this way.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:36 PM   #7
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No the winner should not get the most. The champion should get the most, and if it is not for a title, then the person who draws the most should get the most, because he is bringing more to the fight.

This is how it already is, and in my opinion, it needs to stay this way.
You could also do where the champion gets a higher show pay, but if he loses the contenders show pay plus win bonus would be higher than just the champs show pay.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:11 PM   #8
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No the winner should not get the most. The champion should get the most, and if it is not for a title, then the person who draws the most should get the most, because he is bringing more to the fight.

This is how it already is, and in my opinion, it needs to stay this way.

you could still have a set bonus payout for the winner.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:15 PM   #9
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A bonus is still going to come out of the total amount of money that the fighters get, and I am against that.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:36 PM   #10
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****ing hell, why argue about it?

Yes it can be done. Anything legal can be done so long as a contract is signed.

Riddick Bowe (or one of his handlers) reportedly once offered to fight Lennox Lewis (after the trash can incident) for a winner take all fight for the purse. Loser gets squat.

Lewis accepted after a bit of umming an ahing. Faxed his response.

Bowe was never heard from again............ (from a boxing insider article)


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Consider this fact published in the book "Lennox Lewis: Champion" by Ken Gorman. Team Lewis was still trying to make a Bowe fight happen in the mid '90s. As it turned out, Bowe's manager Rock Newman got caught in one of the worst boxing bluffs ever made. Newman proposed a "winner-take-all" superfight with an estimated $32 million gross. The loser would get nothing but training expenses. Former manager Frank Maloney consulted with his man Lennox. "Lennox was eager to go ahead with it," said Maloney. "The next day I faxed an acceptance to Newman's office. I never heard a word back from him."
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:06 AM   #11
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Riddick Bowe (or one of his handlers) reportedly once offered to fight Lennox Lewis (after the trash can incident) for a winner take all fight for the purse. Loser gets squat.

Lewis accepted after a bit of umming an ahing. Faxed his response.

Bowe was never heard from again............ (from a boxing insider article)
And we have WHO'S word on that - oh, yeah, that's right, Frank Maloney, Lewis' manager. This is, at best, an unsubstantiated allegation. More than likely, it's pure propaganda.

As to the manner of 60/40 purse splits, I think it's a great idea. I don't get why people are against it, in fact.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:09 AM   #12
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And we have WHO'S word on that - oh, yeah, that's right, Frank Maloney, Lewis' manager. This is, at best, an unsubstantiated allegation. More than likely, it's pure propaganda.

As to the manner of 60/40 purse splits, I think it's a great idea. I don't get why people are against it, in fact.
Jesus Zak, I swear you search for Lewis's name. You have an insane obsession with hating him. Did he beat your favourite fighter or something?


And yes I think the 60/40 splits are a great idea. Might make a dirge like Winky v Hopkins slightly more interesting, if there was a bit more cash on the line for the winner.

I mean, why push yourself if your money is guaranteed. It makes zero sense to me why people wouldn't be all for it.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:40 AM   #13
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Jesus Zak, I swear you search for Lewis's name. You have an insane obsession with hating him. Did he beat your favourite fighter or something?


And yes I think the 60/40 splits are a great idea. Might make a dirge like Winky v Hopkins slightly more interesting, if there was a bit more cash on the line for the winner.

I mean, why push yourself if your money is guaranteed. It makes zero sense to me why people wouldn't be all for it.
It's not "hate" - it's setting the record straight!!

And no, I don't search for these things. But I don't exactly resist the urge to respond either!

But we're definitely in agreement on these 60/40 splits. I am not in favor of "winner take all" purses, though - and I don't think any manager/promoter would ever in their right mind agree to one anyway. But for the loser to walk away with 40 percent of the take seems perfectly reasonable to me. I've never quite understood this business of beltholders AUTOMATICALLY getting more - particularly with title proliferation.
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Old 12-12-2007, 12:48 AM   #14
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A bonus is still going to come out of the total amount of money that the fighters get, and I am against that.
So you think the guy who did his job better shouldn't get paid a bonus for doing it?

You are whats wrong with the mind of boxing promoters.
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