Ali: "Marciano better than Frazier" - Page 3

cesare-borgia · 10-03-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kmac

this would be one-sided for ali imo. he would have outboxed him all night.

nah man, it would go like Frazier, Ali spoke highly of Marciano cause he knows the style gives him trouble, its not saying what the white man wants to hear either like racist mw says, see what he said about dempsey.

SweetHome_Bama · 10-03-2011, 09:53 AM

Joe Louis gave Marciano some fits with his boxing ability when he fought him and was shot to hell. No way in hell Marciano poses a problem to Ali or Fraiser.

JoeAverage · 10-03-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

Joe Louis gave Marciano some fits with his boxing ability when he fought him and was shot to hell. No way in hell Marciano poses a problem to Ali or Fraiser.

Same could be said the other way. Frazier gave Ali all kinds of trouble and Marciano is better than Frazier.

Ali knows.

SweetHome_Bama · 10-03-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Same could be said the other way. Frazier gave Ali all kinds of trouble and Marciano is better than Frazier.

Ali knows.

How would Ali know? He never fought Marciano in a real fight.

I don't think Marciano could beat Frazier also.

Stinky gloves · 10-03-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot

.............. Ali was a very classy guy. I.............

WTF ... I mean ... WTF?

Rock0052 · 10-03-2011, 11:56 AM

Had they fought, I imagine it probably would've been quite similar to the Ali-Frazier trilogy- back and forth wars where each guy takes as good as they get. Rocky would've won at least one of the three IMO.

SweetHome_Bama · 10-03-2011, 12:10 PM

Sorry folks but Marciano wouldn't have even been competitive with Ali.

kylmac85 · 10-03-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganWarrior

Ali hated white people. But he loved to tell them things they wanted to hear.

racist pos

SweetHome_Bama · 10-03-2011, 12:24 PM

Can anyone tell me how a 5'11', 185 llb fighter, with a 67 inch reach is going to handle Ali who was 6'2'', 220 llbs with a 80 inch reach, who was mobile as hell, had a granite chin, and technically superior?

cesare-borgia · 10-03-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

Can anyone tell me how a 5'11', 185 llb fighter, with a 64 inch reach is going to handle Ali who was 6'2'', 220 llbs with a 80 inch reach, who was mobile as hell, had a granite chin, and technically superior?

Still Ali thinks so, and he knows his own abilities and flaws better than anyone.

SweetHome_Bama · 10-03-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cesare-borgia

Still Ali thinks so, and he knows his own abilities and flaws better than anyone.

Ali was just being nice and sending a subliminal diss to Joe Frazier.

By the way Joe Frazier would have murdered Marciano.

TboneNYC · 10-03-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

Sorry folks but Marciano wouldn't have even been competitive with Ali.

Your out of your boxing mind to say the least.

HENDO · 10-03-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetHome_Bama

Ali was just being nice and sending a subliminal diss to Joe Frazier.

By the way Joe Frazier would have murdered Marciano.

Another gem from Sweethome.

First you compare Louis, a relatively stationary plodder with excellent fundamentals, known for his punching power, technical prowess, and ability to put combinations together, to Ali, a mover, a great athlete, that didn't possess the fundamentals that Louis did.

This is idiotic, but I would suspect this from a guy that wishes he would get fired from his own job because he hates his life so much.

If you wanted a more accurate comparison, you should probably use Jersey Joe Walcott as an example considering he was an excellent mover.

However, there are differences in the sense that Jersey Joe Walcott was probably the trickiest heavyweight of all time, one of the greatest counterpunchers, and had knockout power in both hands.

Ali was faster, but he relied more on his athletic ability and handspeed in combination with his excellent toughness and mental fortitude to win his fights.

Considering that Frazier beat Ali, there is a strong possibility that Marciano can do the same thing considering Ali is no a HUGE puncher, Marciano has an incredible workrate and punch output, plus his low to the ground style could prove troubling for relatively upright Ali.

Not to mention, the body attack that Marciano puts in place in combination with his ability to perserver through punishment makes this a very competitive fight.

You could even say it's 50/50.

But you don't know shit about boxing, and should stick to spewing your Christian hating, poor hating, self hating nonsense in the lounge.

HENDO · 10-03-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TboneNYC

Your out of your boxing mind to say the least.

Sweethome is a troll.

SILENCER · 10-03-2011, 12:39 PM

This is any easy fight to pick. Every time Frazier throws a looping left he leaves himself vulnerable to Marciano's straight right and would clocked on the chin by the infamous Suzie-Q repeatedly. Both Marciano and Frazier were fairly slow starters who got tougher as the fight went on, but I see Frazier getting caught cold and never fully recovering. Marciano TKO5.

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SweetHome_Bama The Honorable Judge East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 42,165 vCash: 10918	Re: Ali: "Marciano better than Frazier" Joe Louis gave Marciano some fits with his boxing ability when he fought him and was shot to hell. No way in hell Marciano poses a problem to Ali or Fraiser.
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Rock0052 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8,347 vCash: 75	Re: Ali: "Marciano better than Frazier" Had they fought, I imagine it probably would've been quite similar to the Ali-Frazier trilogy- back and forth wars where each guy takes as good as they get. Rocky would've won at least one of the three IMO.
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SweetHome_Bama The Honorable Judge East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 42,165 vCash: 10918	Re: Ali: "Marciano better than Frazier" Sorry folks but Marciano wouldn't have even been competitive with Ali.
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SweetHome_Bama The Honorable Judge East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 42,165 vCash: 10918	Re: Ali: "Marciano better than Frazier" Can anyone tell me how a 5'11', 185 llb fighter, with a 67 inch reach is going to handle Ali who was 6'2'', 220 llbs with a 80 inch reach, who was mobile as hell, had a granite chin, and technically superior?
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SILENCER super champion! ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,608 vCash: 500	Re: Ali: "Marciano better than Frazier" This is any easy fight to pick. Every time Frazier throws a looping left he leaves himself vulnerable to Marciano's straight right and would clocked on the chin by the infamous Suzie-Q repeatedly. Both Marciano and Frazier were fairly slow starters who got tougher as the fight went on, but I see Frazier getting caught cold and never fully recovering. Marciano TKO5.
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