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Old 10-02-2011, 11:03 PM   #76
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Default Re: If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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I think Sergio could lure him to 155 by putting the second most prestigious belt in all of boxing on the line.


A MW belt is a very, very tempting thing. Could Mayweather resist a chance to get his hands on the belt Hagler and Monzon once had?


At some point May is gonna be thinking legacy (his bills are already paid I would assume) and I think that point may have arrived.

Like Roy Jones before him, Floyd will only start thinking legacy after he loses that first fight. He can make over $40 million to fight guys like Ortiz, Khan, Berto, etc. He wanted nothing to do with Margarito and took lesser money to fight Baldomir, same will apply to Sergio. Legacy for Floyd is remaining unbeaten, not to fight the greatest challenges. To me that's the big difference between him and Pac. Pac jumped to fight DelaHoya when it was expected to be an execution. Floyd's never jumped for a fight with a guy who had a serious advantage over him. When he fought Castillo it was because HBO strong armed him and he balked heavily about it. No chance he's being strong armed now.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:02 AM   #77
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Default Re: If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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Pac gets too much credit for his climb in weight. Once he got into a real strength and conditioning program, his body filled out very well. He was a big fighter in most of the classes he fought in. He had been rehydrating above or near 140 years before he got there.

precisely, pac hardly moved up in weight. he was already in the 140's during the morales trilogy. he just systematically stop dehyrating and rehydrating himself. now, he doesn't have to worry about making weight. his opponent might outweight him at fight night but he doesn't care because his body is at optimum level of performance. ie speed and power...
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:19 AM   #78
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Void would not challenge Martinez neither Pac.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:34 AM   #79
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floyd would sh!t his pants if martinez gets to him with those bombs... he wants to get vaporize by sergio rather by PAC....lol less shame
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:38 AM   #80
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Default Re: If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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course he did

He won a few paper ABC titles for sure
name them idiot.

He won the lineal/wbc belt from Genaro
lineal/wbc from Castillo
wbc from Gatti
IBF from Judah
lineal/wbc from baldomir
wbc from Oscar
wbc from Ortiz

Those aren't paper belts. A paper belt is the title Pac won at 150
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:39 AM   #81
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A 157-158 catchweight would get full credit.
No.


A 159.5 lb catchweight would not get full credit.

the weight limit is 160.


I believe 154 would be a reasonable weight for these two to face off.
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:44 AM   #82
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Like Roy Jones before him, Floyd will only start thinking legacy after he loses that first fight. He can make over $40 million to fight guys like Ortiz, Khan, Berto, etc. He wanted nothing to do with Margarito and took lesser money to fight Baldomir, same will apply to Sergio. Legacy for Floyd is remaining unbeaten, not to fight the greatest challenges. To me that's the big difference between him and Pac. Pac jumped to fight DelaHoya when it was expected to be an execution. Floyd's never jumped for a fight with a guy who had a serious advantage over him. When he fought Castillo it was because HBO strong armed him and he balked heavily about it. No chance he's being strong armed now.

He didn't fight asshole Margocheato because he hated Arum and didn't want him to make any more money off of him. Besides Baldy was the lineal champ and held the Green belt which Money covets. Besides he had his eyes focused on ODLH who was the real cash cow and in effect passed the torch to PBF as the PPV king.

IF money beat Serg, he would be without a doubt the p4p king and best of this generation. Even if he fought him @ 154, serg weighed 158 for his last fight and says he will not fight @ SMW because he is a small MW. I cannot see serg having any problem make 154.

BTW I am a fan of both Pac and PBF and right now it is to close to call who is the best, the only way to break the deadlock is to fight each other or the next best thing . . . and that is Serg without a doubt. Serg is a fighter who is in his prime, great quickness, power, and is a harder match-up for either guy than what they have done in the last 5 fights (even @154). Serg, is the MW champ (not belt holder) which is the second most coveted title in boxing.
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:50 PM   #83
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Default Re: If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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name them idiot.

He won the lineal/wbc belt from Genaro
lineal/wbc from Castillo
wbc from Gatti
IBF from Judah
lineal/wbc from baldomir
wbc from Oscar
wbc from Ortiz

Those aren't paper belts. A paper belt is the title Pac won at 150
Genaro lost to DLH
Castillo was rubbed
Gatty was losing many fights
Judah lost to baldomir
Baldomir had a terible record including many loses
It was time for Oscar to retire.
Non of these fighters were at their best.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:06 PM   #84
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Default Re: If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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name them idiot.

He won the lineal/wbc belt from Genaro
lineal/wbc from Castillo
wbc from Gatti
IBF from Judah
lineal/wbc from baldomir
wbc from Oscar
wbc from Ortiz...
Off topic:
bballchump, in your opinion, does Pacquiao having 1 more lineal win over Floyd currently make him greater?
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:10 PM   #85
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I voted yes, but the cheating ducker won't take that fight for 50 million bucks.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:14 PM   #86
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Hmm...eerily quiet from bballchump on the lineal titles question
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:28 PM   #87
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If Floyd challenges Sergio at 155 for the MW belt and defeats Sergio. . .would he undeniably have surpassed Pacquiao in every conceivable category, resume and legacy-wise?


I think yes.


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For sure. But Floyd cannot move up that far. Guess hope for catchweight maybe.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:51 PM   #88
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It would help Floyd's legacy A LOT.

But it would not make him greater than Pacquiao.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:53 PM   #89
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How could the floyd ****riders rejoice if he won? The title wouldn't count to them since it would be a catchweight title. Like Floyd's fight w/ Ortiz, it might as well not even have happened.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:53 PM   #90
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Default Re: If PBF challenges Maravilla at 155 for WBC MW belt. . .

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Genaro lost to DLH
Castillo was rubbed
Gatty was losing many fights
Judah lost to baldomir
Baldomir had a terible record including many loses
It was time for Oscar to retire.
Non of these fighters were at their best.


At least remember where Genaro lost to DLH...
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