Is Sergio Martinez Over rated?

Kid_Chocolate · 10-01-2011, 10:03 PM

Undoubtedly, sergio is a great fighter, and his fight against paul williams has spring boarded him to great fame and recognition, but is he truly worthy of his #3 p4p ranking? and if so why ? and vice versa, im interested to hear ur views..

Baldwin · 10-01-2011, 10:25 PM

. Beat willaims twice in my books and that ko in the second fight will be talked about for 50 years .Koed cintron in my books. Beat up pavilk. Dominated his last fight. Amazing boxing skills. I think he can cause any 168lb fight troubles and beat alot of them. He would beat any 154lb out there

He is underated.

slugger3000 · 10-01-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Baldwin

Shut the fuck ya. Beat willaims twice in my books and that ko in the second fight will be talked about for 50 years .Koed cintron in my books. Beat up pavilk. Dominated his last fight. Amazing boxing skills.

He is underated.

He was under the radar for a long time. He's finally getting credit!

EpsilonAxis · 10-01-2011, 10:28 PM

He's awesome, entertaining, fights the best, and is DEAD SEXY

bballchamp11 · 10-01-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid_Chocolate

Undoubtedly, sergio is a great fighter, and his fight against paul williams has spring boarded him to great fame and recognition, but is he truly worthy of his #3 p4p ranking? and if so why ? and vice versa, im interested to hear ur views..

he hasn't fought any hof locks or atgs

you have to wonder how his skills would look and hold up against more skilled competition

the_truth · 10-01-2011, 10:33 PM

Underated should be the answer... I honestly wouldnt mind and not throw a tantrum if they had him as the P4P king instead of what most other places have him behind Floyd and Manny...

Baldwin · 10-01-2011, 10:35 PM

And he comes in killer shape and is the stud of boxing

PNoyFightFanUSN · 10-01-2011, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bballchamp11

he hasn't fought any hof locks or atgs

you have to wonder how his skills would look and hold up against more skilled competition

this is actually why i'm kinda torn.

He flew under the radar for a while but his best wins are against Pavlik (who i remember people deriding as 1 dimensional, especially after Hopkins beat him) and Williams who I think may have actually been a little overrated but he did have a hard time getting big fights.

The other problem is the division he's fighting in is fairly weak.

bballchamp11 · 10-01-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PNoyFightFanUSN

this is actually why i'm kinda torn.

He flew under the radar for a while but his best wins are against Pavlik (who i remember people deriding as 1 dimensional, especially after Hopkins beat him) and Williams who I think may have actually been a little overrated but he did have a hard time getting big fights.

The other problem is the division he's fighting in is fairly weak.

this is what I mean

Asterion · 10-01-2011, 10:43 PM

Definitely overrated by those who think he's already a great Middleweight champion.

Martinez is a pretty good fighter with solid skills, but he is just starting to create his legacy.

JMP · 10-01-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EpsilonAxis

He's awesome, entertaining, fights the best, and is DEAD SEXY

the_truth · 10-01-2011, 10:50 PM

The way he is beating his opponents also should be taken in consideration. People are now saying Williams was overated, but lets be realistic that KO was very impressive a guy in his prime to get drop like that. He gave Pavlik a beating in his weight class and took both of his titles. Say what you want about Pavlik but the guy was doing his thing in his weight class where he belong and had wins over the tough Rubio. He then face undefeated Dzinziruk though at higher weight class and stop him for the first time in his career. The guy is beating guys convincingly with no demands and controversies who are in the top of their divisions or belt holders simple as that...

brnxhands · 10-01-2011, 10:51 PM

He's not overrated for active fighters, but when people make threads comparing him to Hagler an Monzon it's fucking laughable.

Asterion · 10-01-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brnxhands

He's not overrated for active fighters, but when people make threads comparing him to Hagler an Monzon it's fucking laughable.

yingyang · 10-01-2011, 11:07 PM

The guy landed a lucky punch and now became a star... LOL never fought any HOF or ATG fighters. overrated defenitely.

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Baldwin THE GREAT ONE ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3,212 vCash: 390	Re: Is Sergio Martinez Over rated? . Beat willaims twice in my books and that ko in the second fight will be talked about for 50 years .Koed cintron in my books. Beat up pavilk. Dominated his last fight. Amazing boxing skills. I think he can cause any 168lb fight troubles and beat alot of them. He would beat any 154lb out there He is underated.
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the_truth Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 978 area in mass. Posts: 3,561 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Sergio Martinez Over rated? Underated should be the answer... I honestly wouldnt mind and not throw a tantrum if they had him as the P4P king instead of what most other places have him behind Floyd and Manny...
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Asterion Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,800 vCash: 75	Re: Is Sergio Martinez Over rated? Definitely overrated by those who think he's already a great Middleweight champion. Martinez is a pretty good fighter with solid skills, but he is just starting to create his legacy.
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the_truth Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 978 area in mass. Posts: 3,561 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Sergio Martinez Over rated? The way he is beating his opponents also should be taken in consideration. People are now saying Williams was overated, but lets be realistic that KO was very impressive a guy in his prime to get drop like that. He gave Pavlik a beating in his weight class and took both of his titles. Say what you want about Pavlik but the guy was doing his thing in his weight class where he belong and had wins over the tough Rubio. He then face undefeated Dzinziruk though at higher weight class and stop him for the first time in his career. The guy is beating guys convincingly with no demands and controversies who are in the top of their divisions or belt holders simple as that...
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brnxhands Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bronx ny Posts: 6,125 vCash: 75	Re: Is Sergio Martinez Over rated? He's not overrated for active fighters, but when people make threads comparing him to Hagler an Monzon it's fucking laughable.
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yingyang Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,763 vCash: 500	Re: Is Sergio Martinez Over rated? The guy landed a lucky punch and now became a star... LOL never fought any HOF or ATG fighters. overrated defenitely.
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