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Old 10-08-2011, 11:59 AM   #61
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The WBO belt.
You mean the belt Martinez was stripped of for no apparent reason and that Pirog won as a vacant title against an untested prospect?
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:01 PM   #62
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You mean the belt Martinez was stripped of for no apparent reason and that Pirog won as a vacant title against an untested prospect?
Yep, and look at the thread title.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:02 PM   #63
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pirog will beat the ***y out of him
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:09 PM   #64
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Yep, and look at the thread title.
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I'll ask again, but why? Why would you pay a sanctioning fee to fight for a belt you've already won and felt was wrongfully stripped? And why would you recognize the guy who won your vacant belt as a legitimate champion (especially when said beltholder has never even defeated a top 10 figher in the division)? Absent any mitigating circumstances (such as the opponent having the ability to bring a great deal of money to the table or achieving recognition as the best challenger in the entire division) not wanting to fight for a belt one has already rightfully won is perfectly logical.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:15 PM   #65
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It was suppose to be an "easy" fight. Like a "stay busy" fight that boxers take after taking on tough opponents. This was said by his team after Dzin fight.
So you don't have to earn your shot at the best man then.
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:29 PM   #66
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I'll ask again, but why? Why would you pay a sanctioning fee to fight for a belt you've already won and felt was wrongfully stripped? And why would you recognize the guy who won your vacant belt as a legitimate champion (especially when said beltholder has never even defeated a top 10 figher in the division)? Absent any mitigating circumstances (such as the opponent having the ability to bring a great deal of money to the table or achieving recognition as the best challenger in the entire division) not wanting to fight for a belt one has already rightfully won is perfectly logical.
I dunno dude, if someone stole something from me I'd go and take it back instead of letting him claim that it is his. But I can't knock Martinez either, he probably doesn't have much prime time left so if he chooses to go for pay-days nobody can really criticize him for that. But also, IMO if Martinez chooses not to go after the belt that Pirog stole from him, then Pirog is a champ in my eyes.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:03 PM   #67
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This is a fight i would love to see
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:49 PM   #68
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This is a fight i would love to see
It's not going to happen. Martinez is finding all sorts of excuses to duck Pirog.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:59 PM   #69
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It's not going to happen. Martinez is finding all sorts of excuses to duck Pirog.
Duck? Not at all, Martinez went toe to toe with Williams TWICE when no one else would.

And to be honest, I don't see Pirog winning this fight... at least not now. Up to this point his best opponent was danny jacobs; who was also pretty green.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:04 PM   #70
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Can't understand why they won't fight Pirog
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:10 PM   #71
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Can't understand why they won't fight Pirog
No money, although pirog looks pretty good.... he's not really a beneficial opponent as compared to mayweather and pacquiao who are p4p 1 and 2
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:44 PM   #72
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LMAOFL!!!! And this is how the hypejobs get done! Oh my the things that are said on ESB We don't know alot about Pirog or what he is capable of, yes he beat Jacobs who beat......hmmm....get my point? Pirog is looking for a shortcut to fame by fighting Sergio. What Pirog needs to do is stablish himself and get some decent names under his belt. Pirog looked good against Jacobs but that is all we know. I remember the hype train that said Lemeiux was the next BIG thing in MW and now that he lost everyone and their mother now say the next BIG thing at MW is Pirog.


Oh and remember Sergio Martinez got to the top by taking on fights he was suppose to lose (Cintron, Williams, Pavlik) but didn't. Just like Maidana got to be one of the 140lbs best by taking a fight he was brought in to lose (Ortiz) but didn't. And I can continue. Pirog already beat a "prospect" continue on stacking names and soon he will be there.
He lost to Williams, and it was a legit loss. Cintron got KTFO by Margo TWICE and hasn't done shit before or since then except beat a sick Angulo. Pavlik was a drunk and on his way to rehab and just BARELY beat a nobody named Alfonso Lopez after the Martinez fight and rehab.

Martinez is all hot air and a pretty face that HBO loves. If you're not Argentinian and you're buying into the hype you're a sheeple.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:45 PM   #73
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Can't understand why they won't fight Pirog
Because he's a true middleweight who will whoop Sergio's ***y ass all over the ring.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:49 PM   #74
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Duck? Not at all, Martinez went toe to toe with Williams TWICE when no one else would.

And to be honest, I don't see Pirog winning this fight... at least not now. Up to this point his best opponent was danny jacobs; who was also pretty green.
Lmao, look at these fools turning the story upside down when in fact the credit should go to Williams. He fought this high risk, no reward fighter from argentina who's only claim to fame was a draw with Cintron. Williams gave him a chance.

Unfortunately, Martinez does not believe in giving chances

Pirog may not get his chance at all. And Martinez has a lot of excuses why this fight will not be made
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Old 10-08-2011, 10:31 PM   #75
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Lmao, look at these fools turning the story upside down when in fact the credit should go to Williams. He fought this high risk, no reward fighter from argentina who's only claim to fame was a draw with Cintron. Williams gave him a chance.

Unfortunately, Martinez does not believe in giving chances

Pirog may not get his chance at all. And Martinez has a lot of excuses why this fight will not be made
Yes because a 37 year old who drew with Cintron was considered high risk.....
Martinez is coming to the end of the road, how could you blame him for wanting a high paying fight with the top two fighters?
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