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Old 10-11-2011, 11:09 AM   #16
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I love fighting taller guys. What I try to do is get kind of low, avoid some of their punches by ducking, and beat the body up.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:36 PM   #17
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You are making a lot of mistakes but that is to be expected. Refining your style is a long slow painful process. It would appear that being a short slugger is your natural style, so go with it. You seem to know what you need to do, you just happen to be a bit sloppy at the moment. It will improve with time and experience. Keep you punches short and sweet, don't reach. Who knows maybe one day you will be the next Mike Tyson!
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:10 PM   #18
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interesting videos
your preety good, actually i have a similar style to you
with the high guard and all.

i watched the first video and most of time your the one
landing the cleaner punches.

very good blocking, good head movement


but you can, go up and down more

like jab to eyes, straight right to body, then up come to the head with a left hook or a hard jab, then maybe finish with right hand,
step back with jab.



another idea,

double jab inside and or slip inside,
once there, right hook to the body,
then left hook to the head....

and then if he is rocked add a right hook to the head
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:28 PM   #19
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also in last video with the guy in blue

when he throws a right hook to body,
block it and throw left hook
always works
even if you didnt block it
still throw the left hook,
easy shot to land

when he throws a left hook to body
block it and throw a left upper cut
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:05 PM   #20
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I didn't see you having trouble getting inside; none of those guys were doing anything to keep you outside, but I can see why you feel like you aren't getting anything done. That ear muff defense is making you a target- even the guys that started out with the idea of keeping distance gave it up, stood there and punched at you because they could do so with relative impunity.
You need to learn to punch when the other guy is punching; that is when you are able to land clean, effective punches. When you put your gloves up over your eyes, you cannot see the punches coming. Thus you cannot slip them or parry them, creating openings to land punches. And you can't punch from that position- you have to reposition yourself and that is why so many of your punches are short of the mark and seem wild. The other guy has had time to move away. For example, the first guy in the last video telegraphs the living hell out of his right hand and he got away with it because you had your face covered and weren't in position to punch.
Two other things. The way you lay that right hand out there, kind of as a range finder, that will get you nailed. That is a habit to break. Also, when you throw the left hook, you frequently leave yourself wide open.
The biggest thing you need to learn is how to slip and counter, or bob and weave and counter...to punch when he punches. Also turning angles would take you out of range and let you keep punching. That can be accomplished with very slight, subtle moves, just sliding an inch or two in one direction or the other. Standing right in front with your gloves up will allow those guys to pot shot you, throw punches and move away.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:06 PM   #21
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you make some good points grey
but i dont your selling the high guard short

its not hard too slip punches from it or parry....
ducking i find hard to do from it

and and what do you mean pot shot????

what pot shot air and my gloves,
and then move away

ok great, you just wasted a bunch of energery and landed NOTHING
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:13 PM   #22
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But the problem is, you can't punch back while he is hitting your gloves. You move forward, he bounces three punches off your gloves and then steps away before you punch back, and this happens over and over again. Who wins?
It is just a bad position in which to have your gloves if you are intending to punch fluidly.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:15 AM   #23
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never stand in the corner and take 4/5 shots like that

a few times you were just letting him get in range and do work on u

use the jab way more, especially when they are coming into your range

pivot when you are on the ropes

the jab is not straight enough, you are still telegraphing it a little

throw the jab from the hip, he wont see it coming and you'll land it at will
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:15 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
But the problem is, you can't punch back while he is hitting your gloves. You move forward, he bounces three punches off your gloves and then steps away before you punch back, and this happens over and over again. Who wins?
It is just a bad position in which to have your gloves if you are intending to punch fluidly.

to a large degree i agree with you,
but i do find its easy to land a left hook
when he stops punching.

and yes its not the best postion for your gloves if you want to punch fluidly

but it is the best postion if your fighting
a fast handed fighter,
many of whom are arm punchers

but cause of the speed it is hard to slip or parry their shots
but because of the high guard and their lack of power
you can use the high guard to walk them down and catch them
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:11 PM   #25
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But the problem is, you can't punch back while he is hitting your gloves. You move forward, he bounces three punches off your gloves and then steps away before you punch back, and this happens over and over again. Who wins?
It is just a bad position in which to have your gloves if you are intending to punch fluidly.
You can't be a "safe" puncher fighting out of a high guard. You have to be a guy who let's his hands go quickly and viciously when the time is right. If a guy is the type to "wait until the storm has passed"? You have a point.

You can "fluidly" issue powerful jabs and fast rear hand straights with a high guard. Add to that great uppercuts when fighting aggressive guys. The trick is, you have to have good anticipation and decently fast hands/an explosive start reflex.
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