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Old 10-08-2011, 03:07 PM   #76
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Who the **** don't respect Marquez. You can check back to the JMM/Pac threads to see what the deal is clown. Marquez has no haters but you ugly ass pac****s.

I only notice admiration for Marquez from filipinos fans and everyone in person or on forums he is like the only person to go toe to toe with pacquiao in 2 stages of his career.... and everyone respects that. It's just filipinos on here that hide behind computers that need to degrade JMM, which is what made me hate them... as I came into this website as a huge PACQUIAO fan. I still am, and am trying not to hate on him because of my hate for pac****s.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:31 PM   #77
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Pac****s are definitely the worst boxing fans ever and bring unwarranted hate
towards Pac.


Back on topic. Marquez had mentioned earlier that he was going for the KO. I'm starting to believer that will be his focus.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:33 PM   #78
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It would be funny if he outweighs Pac on fight night.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:37 PM   #79
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filipinos hate Juan cus mexicans have big digs and filipinos have only *****s no digs :=)
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:40 PM   #80
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I'd love to see JMM make this competitive. Don't think he can at his age or at this weight, but here's to hoping.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:42 PM   #81
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All this talk about speed... it's not like he was ever faster than Pac the first two times.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:57 PM   #82
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All this talk about speed... it's not like he was ever faster than Pac the first two times.
He matched him for speed, its the reason why he could actually counter manny so hard. Timing aint nothing if you don't have the ability to land.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:59 PM   #83
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If Cotto couldn't beat Pacquiao, Marquez who is a real lightweight is in for a beatdown.
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:01 PM   #84
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He matched him for speed, its the reason why he could actually counter manny so hard. Timing aint nothing if you don't have the ability to land.
actually it's more of a balance issue with pac. Pac was always losing his balance against Marquez. That was back then. Pac is more balanced and is not a reckless fighter which is the reason why people say Pac has lost his speed. That's coz Pac doesn't blitz his opponents that much. Pac is more of a thinking fighter now.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:02 PM   #85
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Mosley made pac look reckless desperately trying to tag mosley ...
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:37 PM   #86
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Pac****s are definitely the worst boxing fans ever and bring unwarranted hate
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Back on topic. Marquez had mentioned earlier that he was going for the KO. I'm starting to believer that will be his focus.
It may very well be the case.
I mentioned a couple a weeks ago that because Marquez has zero chance to win a decision, his best chance may be to reduce his combinations from a 4 and 5 punch combo, to a 2 and 3 punch combo but to put more mus**** on the shots.

It will not shock me one bit to see Pacquiao wobbled early by a single shot or two punch mus**** delivered punch.

Marquez imo is climbing the ring to win, and I have little doubt that if the opportunity presents itself, he's going to shoot for the KO.

Btw Pac****s, I fighter can actually shoot of a KO without standing and trading.
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Old 10-08-2011, 08:42 PM   #87
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Been saying it. JMM is and always been naturally bigger than Pac; WHen Pac was 112 / 122 JMM had been at 126. Pac look substantially smaller than Barrera when they fought at 126, whereas JMM looked clearly bigger than Barrera when he fought him at 130.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:16 PM   #88
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Thanks for the vids.

You can see that Marquez is constantly moving to his left to take away the southpaw left hand and also establishing the outside foot. That's something he did very well versus Pac in their last fight.... but I'd like to see much more of a jab from JMM. Always thought if he would've put a jab on Pacquiao he could've won either fight by a wide margin.
I dont think so.

Pacquiao has always dominated fighters reliant on using the left jab and left hook, and the reason for it is because he uses his right hand (which he does'nt employ so much to punch) to defend incoming left jabs and hooks.

If Pacquiao employs his right hand more against Marquez in this 3rd fight, you will see an opening created by Pacquiao letting go his right, and JMM no doubt will capitalize on that with left jabs and hooks to both the head and body.


Pacquiao will lead, Marquez will counter.

If Pacquiao throws lots of lefts, Marquez will counter those with rights becaue the opening is created to shoot over or under the left by Pacquiao.......

If Pacquiao throw more rights than he did in his previous fights with Marquez, bet that Marquez will counter those over and under to both head and body with left jabs and hooks.

If the opening is there for Marquez to employ his left hand J.R., you best believe he's going to take full advantage of it.
Those openings to throw the left jab was not there previously for Marquez against Pacquiao because Pacquiao had his right hand unoccupied punchingwise to defend that jab.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:37 PM   #89
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I just don't want to hear people saying after the fight Marquez lost because Pac was this and that etc. etc. All the reasons in the world will come out not give Pacquio credit for winning.It always happens after pac destroys somebody's favorite boxer.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:37 PM   #90
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He matched him for speed, its the reason why he could actually counter manny so hard. Timing aint nothing if you don't have the ability to land.
It's hard to understand how you could come up with this comment. JMM is not nearly as fast as Manny. Not his legs, not his body as a whole or even arm punches. Timing and positioning himself for the right moves is what allowed him to beat Manny or at least keep up with him in the last two fights. JMM is a boxer and surely he understands that speed will be necessary this Nov., but his boxing skills and desire to win are his best strengths.
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