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View Poll Results: Hopkins higher than Jones on atg list if he beats Dawson?
Yes 16 25.40%
He already ranks higher 27 42.86%
No way 17 26.98%
No, he needs to (insert answer) 3 4.76%
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:41 AM   #16
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

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After he beats chad dawson next saturday you better rank him higher! Doesnt Longevity count in the sport of boxing? FFS.. Hopkins is one of a kind!
It does, but I got to wait. I probably would rate him higher, but my emotions may be too high after the fight to make a fair judgement
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:50 AM   #17
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

It's a tough choice. Very odd ATG fighters. I can't think of any other fighters with careers like theirs. I'll probably make a choice once they both retire.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:17 AM   #18
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No because he won't beat Dawson.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:41 AM   #19
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

Hopkin looked great on winning because most of the time he is underdog.

When is the prime Jones is underdog to anyone?????????? Jones was untouchable at the time....
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:55 AM   #20
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

These 2 are as close as any as far as trying to distinguish who is the better atg. even as I'm typing this response, I'm going back and forth. I guess IMO, no matter the outcome oct 15, Hopkins ranks JUST above rjj. The longetivity was the x factor to me. If b hop can pull this out against Dawson, it only helps his case, because IMO Dawson would be a great win, obviously.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:19 AM   #21
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

It wouldn't change the fact Jones was the better boxer at their peaks, but I could certainly see a case for it. There are other things that go into determining a fighter's level of greatness.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:28 AM   #22
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Jones can talk about what he used to do but BHop can talk about what he used to do and is still doing. The man is a living legend and has surpassed Jones in the ATG department.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:51 AM   #23
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

Roy Jones in his prime was one of the greatest ever. But add up accomplishments, resume, longevity and I think Hopkins is already ahead.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:54 AM   #24
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Bhop ahead of RJJ.

Roy got knocked out more than he has great wins.
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:55 AM   #25
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Default Re: Atg list, will you put Hopkins higher than Jones if he beats Dawson?

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Do you feel he ranks higher than Jones?
Once and for all, Yes. This is THE fight that if B-Hop wins, he moves above Jones for me, definitively. If he doesn't win, I stick with Jones. I really do think this would be a stunning achievement if Hop was to win this fight, stunning.
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:12 AM   #26
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Lets ****ing settle this with a third fight at cruiserweight

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Old 10-08-2011, 05:39 AM   #27
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Yes, he would be the legit LHW champ, and break another record for oldest man to defend the title.

The only dock I have on Roy despite being perceived as superhuman is having the habit of not fighting the #2 guy in the division (till Tarver).
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:45 AM   #28
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Once and for all, Yes. This is THE fight that if B-Hop wins, he moves above Jones for me, definitively. If he doesn't win, I stick with Jones. I really do think this would be a stunning achievement if Hop was to win this fight, stunning.
My thoughts as well.
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Old 10-08-2011, 05:51 AM   #29
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He's already higher then RJJ.

Let's face facts, yes RJJ was a very gifted and special fighter and yes he beat some good guys and looked spectacular in his prime and yes he managed to win titles from MW to HW (with the exception of the CW title) but as good as his achievements are I think it's safe to say Hopkins has topped him now in terms of ATG rank he did it the hard way and wasn't coddled and he's still doing it the hard way at 46.
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Old 10-08-2011, 06:03 AM   #30
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Jones completely dominated him with 1hand and Hopkins ran from the rematch. Prime Jones is on a complete different level to Hopkins and deep down Hopkins knows it himself. All Hopkins has done is maintained his prime longer
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