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Old 12-12-2007, 07:05 PM   #16
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:07 PM   #17
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Another thing i dont get is why ruben olivares always gets ranked above spinks. Holmes, cooney, qawi, eddie and marvin are easily better names than the people ruben olivares beat.
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:09 PM   #18
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Amazing how much interest these types of lists generate lol
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:11 PM   #19
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Terrible list, terrible. Your list would be far better than this John.

Obviously Dempsey's too high but there's plenty of interesting selections.
Fair comments. I wouldn't have Dempsey or Johnson top 10, not even close. Langford's got a great record. Foreman obviously gets enormous milage out of his comeback title with both Cox and ESPN. Foreman's a hard one to judge purely on the comeback win. Many put Charles well above 27 too. Greb at 13 is eye opening.
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:12 PM   #20
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Another thing i dont get is why ruben olivares always gets ranked above spinks. Holmes, cooney, qawi, eddie and marvin are easily better names than the people ruben olivares beat.
Just because YOU don't recognise them doesn't mean they aren't as good. Cooney? WTF
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:13 PM   #21
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Amazing how much interest these types of lists generate lol
Which is why i enjoy posting them
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:15 PM   #22
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Just because YOU don't recognise them doesn't mean they aren't as good. Cooney? WTF
Cooney is top ten! No doubt about that one....
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On a pound-for-pound list I think I'd have Dempsey at around #80.
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:19 PM   #24
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Some folks are striking their zero keys by mistake.
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:21 PM   #25
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Yeah, i can't believe they left Ibeabuchi off it either. He invented Psycho Pugilism, for ****s sake.


I don't understand Dempsey's high rating at #10. Probably more on a historic impact factor than on accomplishments. I would say Tyson's accomplishements are about as good, but he's #50 or something.
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Some folks are striking their zero keys by mistake.
Yeah, Manassa had Dempsey at #08 at first before correcting himself and getting the numerical order right

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Old 12-12-2007, 07:24 PM   #27
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Yeah, i can't believe they left Ibeabuchi off it either. He invented Psycho Pugilism, for ****s sake.


I don't understand Dempsey's high rating at #10. Probably more on a historic impact factor than on accomplishments. I would say Tyson's accomplishements are about as good, but he's #50 or something.
He's obviously rated on "name".
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Old 12-12-2007, 07:24 PM   #28
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The obvious one is Carlos at 45th!!!

The guy has took the hall of fame, and picked at random places for them to go. Crazy
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