ESPN'S 50 Greatest Boxers of All Time... - Page 4

Maxmomer · 12-12-2007, 08:55 PM

De La Hoya but no Fitzsimmons? Outrageous.

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 08:56 PM

Harry: Do you feel the Matthew Saad Muhammad of 197-1981 would be light-heavyweight champion of the world today, particularly considering that Roy Jones is the champ?

Saad: Oh wow! Roy Jones. But I'd have dealt with him. I never ducked anyone.

Harry: Do you feel at your best you would bring Jones down?

Saad: Jones is a busy fighter, always moving. It would be hard to catch him. I'd have to do a lot of cutting the ring off. He'd always be moving. So the outcome would be up in the air - a draw between us.

Harry: But he is also a puncher

Saad: He is a hitter, but not against me at that weight. That's why I say it's a toss up.

Harry: Do you feel Michael Spinks ducked you?

Saad: He absolutely ducked me.

Harry: Could you have beaten him?

Saad: Of course. I was the hottest guy for three years. No one could deal with me.

Harry: Who do you rate as the greatest light-heavyweight champs?

Saad: First, Archie Moore - the greatest light-heavyweight champ. I liked that man. Next is Bob Foster. We almost fought?

Harry: Weren't you years apart?

Saad: Yes, but we almost did. I'm glad we didn't. I saw his left hook - wow! What a hook. Number three, maybe Harold Johnson. He was really good, but not an action fighter. So I guess I'm number three.

Sorted!

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 08:57 PM

And yet another myth bites the dust. Who would have thought it would be Spinks avoiding Saad!!!!

brownpimp88 · 12-12-2007, 08:58 PM

yeah spinsk ducked him, lol. Spinks said on camera to saad's face, sign the contract. Why dont u download the fight between spinks and vonzell johnson u clown. Spinks is straight up telling him to fight him and saad doesnt sign the contract, its clear who dodged who.

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by brownpimp88

yeah spinsk ducked him, lol. Spinks said on camera to saad's face, sign the contract. Why dont u download the fight between spinks and vonzell johnson u clown. Spinks is straight up telling him to fight him and saad doesnt sign the contract, its clear who dodged who.

Yeah, it's really that easy too

Look, it was a valiant effort you put up but in the end, well it got messy for you. The bottom line is that Saad almost certainly didn't avoid Spinks. The question can possibly even be asked in the reverse.

Unlucky mate, keep well

RoccoMarciano · 12-12-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brownpimp88

....u clown...

Let's keep the name calling out of this. JT is far from a clown as most that read this section of the forum can attest to.

brownpimp88 · 12-12-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

Yeah, it's really that easy too

Look, it was a valiant effort you put up but in the end, well it got messy for you. The bottom line is that Saad almost certainly didn't avoid Spinks. The question can possibly even be asked in the reverse.

Unlucky mate, keep well

how can the question be asked in reverse if butch lewis tried to make the fight happen and saad wouldnt sign the fuckin contract. Why do i get the feeling you havent seen the post fight interviews. Either way, i know spinks would have beat him. He beat the 2 guys that bested saad, and marvin johnson nearly killed him twice, yet spinks handled marvin with ease.

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brownpimp88

how can the question be asked in reverse if butch lewis tried to make the fight happen and saad wouldnt sign the fuckin contract. Why do i get the feeling you havent seen the post fight interviews. Either way, i know spinks would have beat him. He beat the 2 guys that bested saad, and marvin johnson nearly killed him twice, yet spinks handled marvin with ease.

Like with style matchups, you need to open up your mind a bit mate. Fighters call fighters out every 10 seconds. Spinks and Saad were building up to a unification battle, it was their only way of making big money. Unfortunately Saad couldn't keep winning quite long enough.

Tell me again who won the two Johnson fights?

Also, nobody ever said Spinks wouldn't beat Saad

Of course Michael beat Johnson easy, Saad and Mustafa had already murdered the poor guy in very gruelling fights for Johnson. How much did these three losses take off the man? It's a credit Johnson came back to beat a lesser fighter for the title later on.

I like Johnson, a great warrior. No need to be dissin' the guy, he was a fine fighter with an enormous heart who gave us many great shows. Be thankful for guys like he. They are the heart and soul of boxing.

brownpimp88 · 12-12-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

Like with style matchups, you need to open up your mind a bit mate. Fighters call fighters out every 10 seconds. Spinks and Saad were building up to a unification battle, it was their only way of making big money. Unfortunately Saad couldn't keep winning quite long enough.

Tell me again who won the two Johnson fights?

Also, nobody ever said Spinks wouldn't beat Saad

Of course Michael beat Johnson easy, Saad and Mustafa had already murdered the poor guy in very gruelling fights for Johnson. How much did these three losses take off the man? It's a credit Johnson came back to beat a lesser fighter for the title later on.

I like Johnson, a great warrior. No need to be dissin' the guy, he was a fine fighter with an enormous heart who gave us many great shows. Be thankful for guys like he. They are the heart and soul of boxing.

i never hated on johnson, he beat a top 10 atg light heavyweight.

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RoccoMarciano

Let's keep the name calling out of this. JT is far from a clown as most that read this section of the forum can attest to.

Don't ya just love it when they get all down and dirty

Can't believe i've managed to stay aloof for once

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brownpimp88

i never hated on johnson, he beat a top 10 atg light heavyweight.

I will definitely have the material per this unifaction ducking matter. Tell me, IF i can come up with a credible proven source that a bout between the two was in order if Qawi didn't beat Saad what will you do for me??

brownpimp88 · 12-12-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

I will definitely have the material per this unifaction ducking matter. Tell me, IF i can come up with a credible proven source that a bout between the two was in order if Qawi didn't beat Saad what will you do for me??

What do u want me to do?

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brownpimp88

What do u want me to do?

Ohhhh the possibilities!!!!

Well simply taking on board Saad didn't duck Spinks would be fine. I'm not 100% sure i'll nab the info i want but it's a chance.

RoccoMarciano · 12-12-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

Can't believe i've managed to stay aloof for once

I was a bit surprised as well

JohnThomas1 · 12-12-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RoccoMarciano

I was a bit surprised as well

Can't say i blame you

12-12-2007, 08:55 PM	#46
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JohnThomas1 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 12,184 vCash: 1000	Re: ESPN'S 50 Greatest Boxers of All Time... Harry: Do you feel the Matthew Saad Muhammad of 197-1981 would be light-heavyweight champion of the world today, particularly considering that Roy Jones is the champ? Saad: Oh wow! Roy Jones. But I'd have dealt with him. I never ducked anyone. Harry: Do you feel at your best you would bring Jones down? Saad: Jones is a busy fighter, always moving. It would be hard to catch him. I'd have to do a lot of cutting the ring off. He'd always be moving. So the outcome would be up in the air - a draw between us. Harry: But he is also a puncher Saad: He is a hitter, but not against me at that weight. That's why I say it's a toss up. Harry: Do you feel Michael Spinks ducked you? Saad: He absolutely ducked me. Harry: Could you have beaten him? Saad: Of course. I was the hottest guy for three years. No one could deal with me. Harry: Who do you rate as the greatest light-heavyweight champs? Saad: First, Archie Moore - the greatest light-heavyweight champ. I liked that man. Next is Bob Foster. We almost fought? Harry: Weren't you years apart? Saad: Yes, but we almost did. I'm glad we didn't. I saw his left hook - wow! What a hook. Number three, maybe Harold Johnson. He was really good, but not an action fighter. So I guess I'm number three. Sorted!
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JohnThomas1 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 12,184 vCash: 1000	Re: ESPN'S 50 Greatest Boxers of All Time... And yet another myth bites the dust. Who would have thought it would be Spinks avoiding Saad!!!!
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12-12-2007, 08:58 PM	#49
brownpimp88 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,692 vCash: 1000	Re: ESPN'S 50 Greatest Boxers of All Time... yeah spinsk ducked him, lol. Spinks said on camera to saad's face, sign the contract. Why dont u download the fight between spinks and vonzell johnson u clown. Spinks is straight up telling him to fight him and saad doesnt sign the contract, its clear who dodged who.
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