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Old 10-09-2011, 04:08 AM   #1
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Default Prime Miguel Cotto vs Pipino Cuevas, who would win and how?

How would this play out?
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Old 10-09-2011, 04:19 AM   #2
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Default Re: Prime Miguel Cotto vs Pipino Cuevas, who would win and how?

With Cuevas' hand raised because his left hook would land as often as Cotto's does, only problem is Cuevas' hook is much more powerful then Cotto's and that would be the difference
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:53 AM   #3
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Default Re: Prime Miguel Cotto vs Pipino Cuevas, who would win and how?

Cuevas is probably the worst type of opponent for Cotto. I say late round stoppage for Pipino.
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Probably Cuevas. I don't have enough faith in Cotto's defense.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:12 AM   #5
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Default Re: Prime Miguel Cotto vs Pipino Cuevas, who would win and how?

Cotto would take to many big shots from Cuevas.

Would be a great fight but I see Cotto being pulled out in the late rounds.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:14 AM   #6
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Default Re: Prime Miguel Cotto vs Pipino Cuevas, who would win and how?

I do not believe anyone gets blown out fast. I've said before that Cotto's punch resistance was never a matter of inability to take big single shots. Ask Mosley. He gets hurt, sure, his chin isn't granite, but if it's not pretty fair, you don't go through Pinto, Bailey, Torres, Judah and Mosley and win against each if you can't take big shots and fight through them. Not unless you're a masterclass defender-which Cotto clearly isn't.

It's a matter of getting ground down with many shots. He tires, he becomes more vulnerable, as you do when fatigue sets in. It's more stamina than chin with him. Any world class athlete pretty much has to have stamina for long, intense physical activity, but having stamina while getting punched is unique to combat sports and, of course, Maverick rules midget bowling. A lot of fighters get misrepresented as having a shaky chin, when it's not quite how big a punch you can take but how many punches you can take or how long you go before the same punches you could take become potentiated by your lack of endurance. Cotto is like that, I think.

This is why, I figure Cotto is giving back plenty, perhaps beating Cuevas on the cards when the damage starts to take its toll and he wilts in the second half, in a hell of a fight. Cuevas by TKO within a couple rounds of Cotto flagging, probably between 10-12 or if it's a fifteen-rounder...okay, still between 10-12, probably. Cotto makes it a great fight though and there's a lot of give and take, Cotto will get hurt a few times before he finally can't recover well enough to stay in it.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:57 AM   #7
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Yall need to go watch some cuevas fights...Pipino was an average boxer with heavy hands.He is also the same height as cotto and had worst D than him too.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:42 AM   #8
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Yall need to go watch some cuevas fights...Pipino was an average boxer with heavy hands.He is also the same height as cotto and had worst D than him too.


But still had the power to take out someone like Cotto, whos defense is nothing special.


Cuevas by brutal KO in the 6th
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:15 PM   #9
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Pipino stops him late in a great fight.
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:17 PM   #10
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I do not believe anyone gets blown out fast. I've said before that Cotto's punch resistance was never a matter of inability to take big single shots. Ask Mosley. He gets hurt, sure, his chin isn't granite, but if it's not pretty fair, you don't go through Pinto, Bailey, Torres, Judah and Mosley and win against each if you can't take big shots and fight through them. Not unless you're a masterclass defender-which Cotto clearly isn't.

It's a matter of getting ground down with many shots. He tires, he becomes more vulnerable, as you do when fatigue sets in. It's more stamina than chin with him. Any world class athlete pretty much has to have stamina for long, intense physical activity, but having stamina while getting punched is unique to combat sports and, of course, Maverick rules midget bowling. A lot of fighters get misrepresented as having a shaky chin, when it's not quite how big a punch you can take but how many punches you can take or how long you go before the same punches you could take become potentiated by your lack of endurance. Cotto is like that, I think.

This is why, I figure Cotto is giving back plenty, perhaps beating Cuevas on the cards when the damage starts to take its toll and he wilts in the second half, in a hell of a fight. Cuevas by TKO within a couple rounds of Cotto flagging, probably between 10-12 or if it's a fifteen-rounder...okay, still between 10-12, probably. Cotto makes it a great fight though and there's a lot of give and take, Cotto will get hurt a few times before he finally can't recover well enough to stay in it.
This to a tee. I want to see this fight now. You've just sold me a fight that is never going to happen. I'll be scarred by this experience.
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Old 10-09-2011, 12:24 PM   #11
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But still had the power to take out someone like Cotto, whos defense is nothing special.


Cuevas by brutal KO in the 6th

This would play out like Ricardo Torres, and Torres was taller...I just dont see how Miguel looses this one. Cuevas was really easy to hit, had little movement and would swing so wide you could land a 747 on his forehead. Cotto would jab him blind before ending his night with a left hook to the body.

Duran controlled him with the jab and he didnt even commit to it the way Cotto does, then he caught Cuevas with a couple of overhand rights that landed effortlessly and he was done. Miguel would dismantle this guy.

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Old 10-09-2011, 07:22 PM   #12
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Cuevas would have Miggy looking up at the lights within 6.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:47 PM   #13
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This would play out like Ricardo Torres, and Torres was taller...I just dont see how Miguel looses this one. Cuevas was really easy to hit, had little movement and would swing so wide you could land a 747 on his forehead. Cotto would jab him blind before ending his night with a left hook to the body.

Duran controlled him with the jab and he didnt even commit to it the way Cotto does, then he caught Cuevas with a couple of overhand rights that landed effortlessly and he was done. Miguel would dismantle this guy.
Except Torres hit nowhere near as hard as Pipino did...NOONE Cotto has faced hit nearly as hard as Cuevas did...and someone who is quite fragile and not hard at all to hit like Cotto, ends up getting brutally KOed. Duran fought a post-Hearns Cuevas, who wasnt the same after Hearns ruined him, and that version of Duran was still much better than the best version of Cotto, and still got caught by a hard left hook to the body, which would probably broken Cotto in two, so i really dont know why you use that comparision. It doesn't take someone with extrodinary skills to beat Cotto...just ask Margarito.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:39 PM   #14
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Default Re: Prime Miguel Cotto vs Pipino Cuevas, who would win and how?

Think of this scenario: a person is standing on the sidewalk and another person walks up to him with a baseball bat and hits him in the face with it. The person falls to the ground unconscious.

Cuevas = the guy with the baseball bat
Cotto = the guy who fell unconscious to the ground

Strong chinned power punching pressure fighters are a terrible style for Cotto. Cuevas just hit way too hard.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:56 PM   #15
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Cuevas wouldn't give Cotto a chance to take a knee. Cuevas by putting Cotto on his back in six or seven.
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