Elijiah McCall vs George Foreman (Monk)

joe the great · 10-09-2011, 09:21 AM

Boxrec 230 ranked son of a former champ vs boxrec's 231 ranked son of a former champ. Mc Call has one loss and fought slightly better competition and Foremans son is undefeated. Who wins and why?

Blake Rayne · 10-09-2011, 10:45 AM

Can't make a prediction but great thread.

Robney · 10-09-2011, 10:59 AM

Clearly Monk Foreman, by KO.

Elijah might have had slightly better opposition but he also got KO'd by the best opponent he faced, who isn't very good to begin with and had no KO wins prior to McCall.
I can't see Foreman having much trouble with Aristilde 9-4, 2KO's (all for losses by KO inside 4 rounds), and we know he walks right through bad opponents with glass jaws.

chitownfightfan · 10-09-2011, 11:01 AM

For all Monks defensive deficiency's you gotta love his walk straight forward punching style.

Monk by KO rd 5.

The MesserStick · 10-09-2011, 11:44 AM

I love this fight. It could be very big for 2 guys at their novice type levels.

When they do those fight card contests at Boxrec with something like 7,000 points being available to build a card of fighters, up to 10 bouts, I like to add this match to round out my card as 1 of the cheaper point total fights. They should use their name recognition to meet up.

I think McCall kills Monk though. I've heard about Monk being so terrible that they had to audition fighters before letting him face them early on to make sure they were terrible enough for Monk to beat. I don't know if they still do that, but them doing it to start shows how much name value Monk has, they were screening bar bums for a guy who couldn't fight very well to build his record. Elijah is a much less protected guy and even though he has been shown to not be in his dad's league, I think he is way out in front of Monk. Unless Foreman has really improved a lot since he started. I haven't heard anything about him in a minute or 2.

Robney · 10-09-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The MesserStick

Elijah is a much less protected guy and even though he has been shown to not be in his dad's league, I think he is way out in front of Monk.

I don't know what you think Elijah has fought already, but it's not much better opposition as Monk has.

There's one fighter that "stands out of the pack" and that's the guy who KO4'd McCall.
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IntentionalButt · 10-09-2011, 11:57 AM

Is this hypothetical or happening?

Stroke of genius if a promoter did pull it together.

joe the great · 10-10-2011, 06:28 PM

Hypothetical at the moment but I'd like to see it out of curiousity.

The MesserStick · 10-10-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robney

I don't know what you think Elijah has fought already, but it's not much better opposition as Monk has.

There's one fighter that "stands out of the pack" and that's the guy who KO4'd McCall.
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I guess you are right. Hard to get too much credit when you don't win. But Monk has not jumped off like that yet either. Elijah took a chance and didn't succeed, Monk still has to take 1. Elijah would be a very good 1 to take. It would be much better than Frieda vs Laila. That was a mismatch against the Foremans. This 1 is a lot closer. Edit....Shit, that never happened. LOL I swore it did.

Bubby · 10-10-2011, 07:01 PM

Well He's fighting better guys than His old man did at the same point in His career..

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chitownfightfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8,617 vCash: 0	Re: Elijiah McCall vs George Foreman (Monk) For all Monks defensive deficiency's you gotta love his walk straight forward punching style. Monk by KO rd 5.
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The MesserStick DavidTua.net Blows East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,836 vCash: 796	Re: Elijiah McCall vs George Foreman (Monk) I love this fight. It could be very big for 2 guys at their novice type levels. When they do those fight card contests at Boxrec with something like 7,000 points being available to build a card of fighters, up to 10 bouts, I like to add this match to round out my card as 1 of the cheaper point total fights. They should use their name recognition to meet up. I think McCall kills Monk though. I've heard about Monk being so terrible that they had to audition fighters before letting him face them early on to make sure they were terrible enough for Monk to beat. I don't know if they still do that, but them doing it to start shows how much name value Monk has, they were screening bar bums for a guy who couldn't fight very well to build his record. Elijah is a much less protected guy and even though he has been shown to not be in his dad's league, I think he is way out in front of Monk. Unless Foreman has really improved a lot since he started. I haven't heard anything about him in a minute or 2.
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IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,312 vCash: 0	Re: Elijiah McCall vs George Foreman (Monk) Is this hypothetical or happening? Stroke of genius if a promoter did pull it together.
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joe the great Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 3,096 vCash: 1000	Re: Elijiah McCall vs George Foreman (Monk) Hypothetical at the moment but I'd like to see it out of curiousity.
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Bubby Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,486 vCash: 500	Re: Elijiah McCall vs George Foreman (Monk) Well He's fighting better guys than His old man did at the same point in His career..
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