What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz?

demigawd · 10-09-2011, 10:32 AM

We all know that moving back down to LHW doomed Roy after winning a heavyweight title from Ruiz. He had a lot of options and picked arguably the worst one. Looking back, what do YOU think he should have done after beating Ruiz?

A lot of people felt he should have retired, but personally, I thought he should have defended the heavyweight title at least 2-3 times, then gone down to Cruiserweight and fight for a title in the only weight class in the upper half of boxing he hadn't yet become a champion in.

dendy · 10-09-2011, 10:33 AM

Retire or have another fight at heavy

Wig · 10-09-2011, 10:36 AM

Stayed on the JoJu juice.

Henke67 · 10-09-2011, 10:38 AM

He should have went after that dream fight with Tyson. Failing that, Holyfield or Byrd then retirement.

FIN · 10-09-2011, 10:39 AM

Retired and he would have been considered a top ten all time great,his legacy has been tarnised a bit since then,if he called it quits people would have talked about him as a god..

Robney · 10-09-2011, 10:41 AM

Against a "real" heavyweight champion wouldn't have gone down well. It would have directly wiped out his victory over Ruiz as having been a "cherrypick".

Back in weight like he did was the better option, because who expected him to have such trouble with Tarver at the time?

Retiring would have been the best option in hindsight, but didn't look to be the best option at the time.

David B · 10-09-2011, 10:44 AM

Fight Lennox Lewis.Win-win situation.
If he wins he is a top 10 ATG,if he loses nobody would blame him,Lennox is much bigger.

LancsTerrible · 10-09-2011, 10:44 AM

Ideally. I would have liked to see him pursue the actual heavyweight crown, but that is a massive task and he really was undersized.

What he did after was actually pretty good for him. Tarver 1 is one of his best wins and does more for his legacy than Ruiz in my opinion.

man_on_the_spot · 10-09-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LancsTerrible

Ideally. I would have liked to see him pursue the actual heavyweight crown, but that is a massive task and he really was undersized.

What he did after was actually pretty good for him. Tarver 1 is one of his best wins and does more for his legacy than Ruiz in my opinion.

I agree. That might actually be his 2nd/3rd best win, considering that he was no longer prime and really hasn't fought a style like Tarver before. Winning the HW belt was a good achievement, but let's be clear about this. He beat the weakest of the belt holders with not much of a punch.
One thing we learned from what followed was that Roy did/does not have the best beard. I will not say it is china, but it was average at best, so a win against a heavy with legit power might have too much of a mountain to climb.

HEADBANGER · 10-09-2011, 11:02 AM

he should have re-inforced his disgraceful jaw with steel.

nastynas · 10-09-2011, 11:02 AM

For his sake- unify with Byrd, and if he won face Lewis (win-win situation like another poster said).

For our sake, Im glad he faced Tarver, Tarver deserved his shot.

Baldwin · 10-09-2011, 11:09 AM

Milked his title and retired

Now he is just a laughing stock. Shameful

cesare-borgia · 10-09-2011, 11:10 AM

his weight was 193, he should have just fought at cruiser, only other 2 options were retire or go for lennox.

SouthpawJab · 10-09-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cesare-borgia

his weight was 193, he should have just fought at cruiser, only other 2 options were retire or go for lennox.

The scale was wrong...he was 200 something..The reweighed right after that.

He should have outboxed Mike Tyson for a stupid pay day and quit.

Or taken the weight off properly and gone back down to 175.

cesare-borgia · 10-09-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthpawJab

The scale was wrong...he was 200 something..The reweighed right after that.

He should have outboxed Mike Tyson for a stupid pay day and quit.

Or taken the weight off properly and gone back down to 175.

Ow well that explains it the, he still could have gone to cruiser.
I honestly think he should have retired after tarver 1 or 3, after the johnson loss it was proven roy was shot and there was no reason for him to continue hurting himself after that.

View Poll Results: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz?
Defended the title against Holyfield/Tyson/other normal sized heavyweights	25	32.89%
Gone down a few pounds to try to win a cruiserweight title	15	19.74%
Attempted to unify the heavyweight titles	9	11.84%
Done what he did and take his beating from Tarver like a man	5	6.58%
Retired	22	28.95%
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10-09-2011, 10:32 AM	#1
demigawd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,519 vCash: 1000	What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? We all know that moving back down to LHW doomed Roy after winning a heavyweight title from Ruiz. He had a lot of options and picked arguably the worst one. Looking back, what do YOU think he should have done after beating Ruiz? A lot of people felt he should have retired, but personally, I thought he should have defended the heavyweight title at least 2-3 times, then gone down to Cruiserweight and fight for a title in the only weight class in the upper half of boxing he hadn't yet become a champion in.
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10-09-2011, 10:33 AM	#2
dendy no easy way out ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Essex Posts: 1,260 vCash: 75	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? Retire or have another fight at heavy
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Wig Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,306 vCash: 180	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? Stayed on the JoJu juice.
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Henke67 Unbroken History ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Our revenge will be in the laughter of our children Posts: 3,534 vCash: 0	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? He should have went after that dream fight with Tyson. Failing that, Holyfield or Byrd then retirement.
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FIN Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,390 vCash: 500	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? Retired and he would have been considered a top ten all time great,his legacy has been tarnised a bit since then,if he called it quits people would have talked about him as a god..
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10-09-2011, 10:44 AM	#7
David B Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: How you expect to run with the wolves come night when you spend all day sparring with the puppies? Posts: 3,775 vCash: 75	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? Fight Lennox Lewis.Win-win situation. If he wins he is a top 10 ATG,if he loses nobody would blame him,Lennox is much bigger.
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LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: King of Mexico. Posts: 10,044 vCash: 2238	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? Ideally. I would have liked to see him pursue the actual heavyweight crown, but that is a massive task and he really was undersized. What he did after was actually pretty good for him. Tarver 1 is one of his best wins and does more for his legacy than Ruiz in my opinion.
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10-09-2011, 11:02 AM	#10
HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,330 vCash: 1000	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? he should have re-inforced his disgraceful jaw with steel.
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nastynas Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4,745 vCash: 1000	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? For his sake- unify with Byrd, and if he won face Lewis (win-win situation like another poster said). For our sake, Im glad he faced Tarver, Tarver deserved his shot.
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10-09-2011, 11:09 AM	#12
Baldwin THE GREAT ONE ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3,212 vCash: 390	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? Milked his title and retired Now he is just a laughing stock. Shameful
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10-09-2011, 11:10 AM	#13
cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Weed capital of the world Posts: 16,333 vCash: 1000	Re: What should Roy have done after beating Ruiz? his weight was 193, he should have just fought at cruiser, only other 2 options were retire or go for lennox.
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