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View Poll Results: Did they test?
No, they didn't test them 47 34.31%
Yes, of course they did 71 51.82%
Yes, but they tested positive and hiding results 19 13.87%
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:28 PM   #91
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People in this thread are pretty ****ing stupid, seriously. Yes, they did testing.

The USADA gives their results to the NSAC who is responsible for enforcement of their own PED policies. The USADA does not "punish" boxers if they test positive, the State Athletic Commission does. When the NSAC said both fighters came up clean, that means: "ALL TEST RESULTS (Including the USADA tests) have been done, and both fighters are clean." The USADA does not need to make a separate statement saying the exact same thing. That is redundant and unnecessary as the NSAC is the governing body, not the USADA.

You people really are not very bright huh? I wonder how many ditch diggers, shoe salesmen, and fast food workers we got in here, seriously. You guys make Forrest Gump look like a Rhodes Scholar.
it's pathetic man
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:29 PM   #92
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What's your source?

According to this: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Floyd Mayweather Jr and Victor Ortiz have had their urine tested as part of the official drug tests sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NASC), and both fighters have supplied clean urine, according to NASC chairman Keith Kizer. The testing is routine for the commission and is not part of the additional random blood testing - conducted by the United States Anti-Doping Agency that the two boxers are also contractually obliged to.

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The first round of Nevada State Athletic Commission drug testing for Floyd Mayweather Jr and Victor Ortiz came back clean yesterday. To be clear, this is not the random USADA testing that Mayweather and Ortiz are doing, but part one of three Nevada tests.
I may start a thread on this.

Do you guys really think there was no testing done
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:34 PM   #93
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Default Do you think USADA tested Ortiz Mayweather?

There seems to be some fuss going around, so I just wanted to see where everybody was at?

Do you think USADA did the testing for Mayweather and Ortiz?
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:35 PM   #94
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There seems to be some fuss going around, so I just wanted to see where everybody was at?

Do you think USADA did the testing for Mayweather and Ortiz?
yes. they got paid by floyd.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:36 PM   #95
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I may start a thread on this.

Do you guys really think there was no testing done
No, that is not the issue here. The issues are whether results were released and if results need to be released even if the results are negative.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:36 PM   #96
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of course they did but floyd finished his testosterone cycle (500mg a week) a month before the testing started.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:38 PM   #97
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Yes, they did. That is not the issue.

The real issue is why they did not release the results of the test and if they need to release the results.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:42 PM   #98
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There seems to be some fuss going around, so I just wanted to see where everybody was at?

Do you think USADA did the testing for Mayweather and Ortiz?
Even if they did test, lil floyd claims to be trying to "clean up" the sport of boxing, yet, doesn't even make his own fighter, who was on his undercard, take the test.

Wouldn't that be a nice start to "cleaning up" the sport of boxing by having not only you, but everyone you are associated with, "take the test"
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All I can say is LOL... Sorry Victor879 but it's a lose lose battle man.. You bring up common sense and they don't understand.. You bring up facts THEY posted links to and they still don't understand. LOL. The test results weren't released like May-Mosley because it wasn't controversy like that fight around testing, and the results were negative. Mosley was a known user, Floyd brought this up a lot in press conferences, they felt it was good information to release due to the requests. Not many people talked about the testing for May-Ortiz so the results weren't released.. Not too hard of a concept to grasp, ESPECIALLY when the facts/links are right in front of you.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:46 PM   #100
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No, that is not the issue here. The issues are whether results were released and if results need to be released even if the results are negative.
yeah they should release them, but they don't have to just appease pactards. Plus I'm sure if they were dirty, NASC would know and do something about it. The fact they came out and said they were both clean is enough and if you don't think so then get a life
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:47 PM   #101
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Even if they did test, lil floyd claims to be trying to "clean up" the sport of boxing, yet, doesn't even make his own fighter, who was on his undercard, take the test.

Wouldn't that be a nice start to "cleaning up" the sport of boxing by having not only you, but everyone you are associated with, "take the test"
Maybe you can email Floyd or Ben Thompson and ask him to ask Floyd to do it
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No, that is not the issue here. The issues are whether results were released and if results need to be released even if the results are negative.
The link dude posted basically tells you the results were ONLY released last time due to massive requests... They obviously felt the results THIS time didn't need to be released because they didn't feel/get the massive requests like last time.. Seriously dude he's explained it a few times already...?
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Maybe you can email Floyd or Ben Thompson and ask him to ask Floyd to do it
He will prolly read it then not give a fu**
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:57 PM   #104
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Who reports test results and punishes Olympic athletes? WADA or the Olympic Commission? WADA gives their results to the commission, and the commission acts on their findings. This situation is no different.

They shouldn't have to mention the USADA tests as "separate." There is absolutely no need. It's redundant. If morons want to run around thinking that there was no random testing done, when both fighters signed a contract stating that there would be, then keep clucking like a bunch of old hens then. That doesn't change the facts that testing was done and both fighters came up clean.

It was in a SIGNED CONTRACT gentlemen. Not exactly easy to back out of signed contracts. Seriously, you guys are ****ing morons. Of course, the general public is pretty stupid on average anyways. I'm going back to my Ivory Tower now with the other educated people. Peace.


the situation is different.

NSAC as of now, has never and does not act or punish anybody on the findings of a different organization. Unless USADA is in charge of this fight, their test result really doesn't mean anything.

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Old 10-10-2011, 03:04 PM   #105
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All I can say is LOL... Sorry Victor879 but it's a lose lose battle man.. You bring up common sense and they don't understand.. You bring up facts THEY posted links to and they still don't understand. LOL. The test results weren't released like May-Mosley because it wasn't controversy like that fight around testing, and the results were negative. Mosley was a known user, Floyd brought this up a lot in press conferences, they felt it was good information to release due to the requests. Not many people talked about the testing for May-Ortiz so the results weren't released.. Not too hard of a concept to grasp, ESPECIALLY when the facts/links are right in front of you.
I think ESB knows where I stand on this issue. At the same time I can't see why the USADA would not issue their own press release.

When doing something in an official capacity there is no, "there wasn't a controversy". There are standard operating procedures and you follow them. Period. If the USADA conducts testing they need to release the results or post them in a place accessible to the public. If they don't they are no more transparent and objective than any of the other agencies.

The IRS requires you to file your taxes every year regardless of if you owe, don't owe, or they owe you. The DMV requires you to register cars even if they are non-operational. Protocol is protocol. Protocol must be consistent and followed regardless of the circumstance.

We can't run around saying "Follow the rules!" and in the same breath say, "Well in this case we can bend the rules." As much as I hate to say it, that is not fair to Pac's camp/position.
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