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Old 10-09-2011, 09:18 PM   #1
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Default Is it better for a boxer to be a little green or a little past his prime

What do you think or does it depend on the fighter?

Ex: Bernard
A little green B Hop vs Roy
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A little past his prime B Hop vs Taylor

Ali of the Liston fight
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Ali in Thrilla in Manilla
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:21 PM   #2
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It completely depends on the fighter. There is no way of answering this question in a general sense.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:28 PM   #3
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It completely depends on the fighter. There is no way of answering this question in a general sense.
yeah I thought so
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:30 PM   #4
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I think it depends on what type of fighter. Fighters like Tyson, RJJ who relied on explosiveness and physical abilities green versions would do better than a slightly past prime versions with their main assets faded.

For skilled, intelligent fighters like Hopkins I don't think it would effect them as much, and they'd likely have improved skillsets and the years of experience under their belt which they could use to negate what they've lost physically.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:33 PM   #5
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Depends on the opponent. In general, I'd say the latter.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:37 PM   #6
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Depends on the fighter that the boxer who is "a little green or a little past their prime" is fighting, and a really tough question to answer.

If he is fighting for the championship, I would have to say a "little green" (but then again, isn't everyone who is fighting for a championship a "little green?) since the champ may be older and past his prime. If he were already a champ, then I would say a little past his prime since he can use his experience and ring savvy to his advantage.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:40 PM   #7
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Gonna be individual situations.

Green fighter is prolly gonna be better athletically, and the Past Prime version should have a massive gain in experience points.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:41 PM   #8
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little past his prime already has a fully developed skill set with slightly declined physicality

little green doesn't know everything yet, but the physical gifts are all there

I rather have someone who is a master with firearms using a slightly cheaper gun covering my ass than a new guy with an expensive gun
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:41 PM   #9
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Depends on the fighter that the boxer who is "a little green or a little past their prime" is fighting, and a really tough question to answer.

If he is fighting for the championship, I would have to say a "little green" (but then again, isn't everyone who is fighting for a championship a "little green?) since the champ may be older and past his prime. If he were already a champ, then I would say a little past his prime since he can use his experience and ring savvy to his advantage.
yeah I guess a good example is

21 year old Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez
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Roy and B-Hop are the perfect examples

RJJ : Style tailored to athletic gifts which obviously decline with age, Roy will know more about boxing now, but he's not half the fighter he was in the James Toney fight.

Hopkins : The opposite, the man beats you with his mind, the older he gets the wiser he gets, asides from Toney, Hopkins is the last active Old School fighter.

Another thing to consider is how that persons prime went, to go back to Roy, the man has never adjusted his style, he still fights by relying on his reflexes, and it's doing him no good, if he'd had a scare in his prime, then he may of made a few subtle adjustments that would help him now.

Being to green can be a good thing, Vargas vs Trinidad, a more seasoned Pro would of eased off and boxed for 3 rounds after the blitzcream Tito laid out in the 1st, however Vargas, due to lacking experiance, went right after Tito, this gave him the best chance to win the fight. (although he didn't, he made a damn good go of it, if he'd sat back and boxed, he'd of just got picked off.)
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:05 PM   #11
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I lean toward a little green, just because that implies they haven't reached their pinnacle yet, and at any time they could. Similar to the stage Jermain was at when BHop gave him his chance. I prefer someone trending up than someone trending down.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:10 PM   #12
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I lean toward a little green, just because that implies they haven't reached their pinnacle yet, and at any time they could. Similar to the stage Jermain was at when BHop gave him his chance. I prefer someone trending up than someone trending down.
B-hop really beat taylor twice!!
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:12 PM   #13
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I lean toward a little green, just because that implies they haven't reached their pinnacle yet, and at any time they could. Similar to the stage Jermain was at when BHop gave him his chance. I prefer someone trending up than someone trending down.

When you refer to him, say Arthur Abrahams bitch not Jermain!
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:20 PM   #14
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I lean toward a little green, just because that implies they haven't reached their pinnacle yet, and at any time they could. Similar to the stage Jermain was at when BHop gave him his chance. I prefer someone trending up than someone trending down.
Maybe like an Andre Ward compared to Kessler
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It completely depends on the fighter. There is no way of answering this question in a general sense.
Yep.
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