Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? - Page 2

yingyang · 10-10-2011, 10:08 AM

Judah is done... time for him to hang up the gloves. He doesnt have the hearts of a mexican fighters like morales.

Judah and Mosley need to retire.

shimmy · 10-10-2011, 10:08 AM

Zab is a non factor at this point. We should see him on FNF's next season.

Heavy Handed · 10-10-2011, 10:09 AM

Zab is a gate keeper now. He'll never be on top of any division for the rest of his career.

JIM KELLY · 10-10-2011, 10:10 AM

i say zab vs malinaggi for the people of BK.

Superkalleb · 10-10-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JIM KELLY

i say zab vs malinaggi for the people of BK.

would be interesting.
has created a discussion about it.

I think Zab knock out around the sixth or seventh round.
though Malignaggi is a good fighter, quick, but without force.

Malignaggi is 147 now.

JMP · 10-10-2011, 10:52 AM

Judah-Morales wouldn't be a bad fight. I'm sure there would be a good amount of heated exchanges and head snapping punches being landed. But as far as Zab getting to the top of any division ago...not happening.

Tar Baby · 10-10-2011, 10:57 AM

Zab Judah vs Kell Brook @ 147 is a good shout

antonio8904 · 10-10-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Superkalleb

Bradley will be fighting against Casamayor.
Amir against Peterson.

Maidana, McCloskey, Matthysse, Morales, Devon, Soto?

I see Zab hitting every one of them.

when's the last fight Zab won, decisively? when's the last significant victory he's had? seriously? he lost to Mattheysse so....................

Zab is nothing more than a gatekeeper, he's a stepping stone...

eastside really needs to let go of the Zab hype, he's a has been that never was in the first place...

pahapoisu · 10-10-2011, 12:47 PM

Maidana vs Judah. Judah is hittable and has a flunky chin. Hes old now and has taken a few beatings. Maidana punches hard and is hittable as well. Add to that Judahs speed and Maidanas non stop agression and you should get a great fucken fight/ beat down(?).

SimonTemplar · 10-10-2011, 12:55 PM

Morales and McCloskey would be the only two mentioned here that I would give Zab a chance with at this point - they are both currently talked about in most discussions of the division, but not as being at the top and their time is surely limited there - Morales is faded and McCloskey is not as strong as too many of the other names out there. It is a good while since Judah looked genuinely good in the ring to the point where most fans would give him a genuine chance of beating a genuinely top guy. Zab would lose comprehensively to all the top guys, including some of those without belts, so I don't see him ever getting back to the top. Changing division wouldn't do him any good - it would just give him a slightly different list of top guys to lose to. I think he will make some more money, I think he will get matched in a couple more interesting fights - but I think that he will lose them. I guess he might beat Malignaggi... but so what?

I think that Zab was always overrated, and is now a faded version of the overrated Zab. A lot of people on here don't think that Khan is the complete package, but Judah was nowhere near beating him, not even competitive, no threat whatsoever. He's trading on his name recognition and old reputation, which was not founded on much in the first place.

Henke67 · 10-10-2011, 01:02 PM

"Return" to the top of the light-welterweight division? When was he at the top?

Anyway, not going to happen. He could be in a couple of interesting fights but he's not going to be #1.

Chibuku · 10-10-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superkalleb

Bradley will be fighting against Casamayor.
Amir against Peterson.

Maidana, McCloskey, Matthysse, Morales, Devon, Soto?

I see Zab hitting every one of them.

Zab's finished man.That guy took some serious punishment in his career and will never be elite.he's basically some damaged goods.He's one of those people whose career was not managed well and basically did not maximise his returns.He has very good physical attributes but mentally he's just as thick as dishwashing liquid.What's worse is he also had one bad corner and it cost him.Zab had a chance to do well against people like Cotto but was just stupid.Who gets hit with such a high number of low blows?

DON1 · 10-10-2011, 01:26 PM

Zab fan over the years but he needs to fck off into retirement. The way he lost to Khan was embarrassing.

10-10-2011, 10:08 AM	#16
yingyang Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,763 vCash: 500	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Judah is done... time for him to hang up the gloves. He doesnt have the hearts of a mexican fighters like morales. Judah and Mosley need to retire.
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shimmy Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,319 vCash: 75	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Zab is a non factor at this point. We should see him on FNF's next season.
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10-10-2011, 10:09 AM	#18
Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: The Infinite Posts: 2,010 vCash: 500	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Zab is a gate keeper now. He'll never be on top of any division for the rest of his career.
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JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Han's Island Posts: 18,470 vCash: 1000	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? i say zab vs malinaggi for the people of BK.
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10-10-2011, 10:52 AM	#21
JMP Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9,829 vCash: 75	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Judah-Morales wouldn't be a bad fight. I'm sure there would be a good amount of heated exchanges and head snapping punches being landed. But as far as Zab getting to the top of any division ago...not happening.
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10-10-2011, 10:57 AM	#22
Tar Baby Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: London Posts: 879 vCash: 430	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Zab Judah vs Kell Brook @ 147 is a good shout
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pahapoisu Superman! ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In a madmans dreamland Posts: 4,085 vCash: 105	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Maidana vs Judah. Judah is hittable and has a flunky chin. Hes old now and has taken a few beatings. Maidana punches hard and is hittable as well. Add to that Judahs speed and Maidanas non stop agression and you should get a great fucken fight/ beat down(?).
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10-10-2011, 12:55 PM	#25
SimonTemplar Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,029 vCash: 500	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Morales and McCloskey would be the only two mentioned here that I would give Zab a chance with at this point - they are both currently talked about in most discussions of the division, but not as being at the top and their time is surely limited there - Morales is faded and McCloskey is not as strong as too many of the other names out there. It is a good while since Judah looked genuinely good in the ring to the point where most fans would give him a genuine chance of beating a genuinely top guy. Zab would lose comprehensively to all the top guys, including some of those without belts, so I don't see him ever getting back to the top. Changing division wouldn't do him any good - it would just give him a slightly different list of top guys to lose to. I think he will make some more money, I think he will get matched in a couple more interesting fights - but I think that he will lose them. I guess he might beat Malignaggi... but so what? I think that Zab was always overrated, and is now a faded version of the overrated Zab. A lot of people on here don't think that Khan is the complete package, but Judah was nowhere near beating him, not even competitive, no threat whatsoever. He's trading on his name recognition and old reputation, which was not founded on much in the first place.
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Henke67 Unbroken History ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Our revenge will be in the laughter of our children Posts: 3,522 vCash: 147	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? "Return" to the top of the light-welterweight division? When was he at the top? Anyway, not going to happen. He could be in a couple of interesting fights but he's not going to be #1.
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10-10-2011, 01:26 PM	#28
DON1 ICEMAN ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,207 vCash: 1000	Re: Who Zab needs win to return to the top of the division? Zab fan over the years but he needs to fck off into retirement. The way he lost to Khan was embarrassing.
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