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vBookie Event: Dawson vs. Hopkins (Boxing)
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vBookie Event
Dawson vs. Hopkins (Boxing)

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Outcome Odds Total Bets Total Staked
Chad Dawson 10/11 (0.91) 51 39718 WIN!
Bernard Hopkins 5/4 (1.25) 136 89934  
Draw 25/1 (25.00) 50 606481  
Over 9.5 rounds 1/5 F (0.20) 31 12313  
Under 9.5 rounds 10/3 (3.33) 11 1078 WIN!

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Old 10-16-2011, 12:43 AM   #46
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In all seriousness, this fight will be overturned, so I hope that the vBookie reflects that rather than awards an unfair Dawson TKO. Terrible call.
Get real you moron. B-Hop bottled it. Just like Cintron.
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:45 AM   #47
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Congrats to all those who backed Dawson.. Good pick guys.
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:56 AM   #48
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if it's no contest, does that mean draw?
No. In the case of an NC it's always a return of all bets. NC and draw are not the same thing at all.

In all honesty, though...I seriously doubt it will be overturned. Hopkins refused to get up. He quit. That's a TKO2.
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:33 AM   #49
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No. In the case of an NC it's always a return of all bets. NC and draw are not the same thing at all.

In all honesty, though...I seriously doubt it will be overturned. Hopkins refused to get up. He quit. That's a TKO2.
How long do we wait till it pays out or the bets are canceled?

I had 100 on the under!
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:19 AM   #50
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I feel robbed
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:52 AM   #51
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Wheres my V-cash?

Dawson winner.
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:40 PM   #52
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I personally don't think it's likely to be overturned, but apparently many people do. We'll give it another day just in case. If it's still officially down as a TKO by Monday, the bets will be settled.

If it gets changed to a NC, the event will be abandoned and all stakes will be returned.

It's not like there's any reason to be in a hurry to get your vCash, since there are no threads up yet to bet on for next week or beyond. (and definitely won't be until after Monday anyway)
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Old 10-16-2011, 02:38 PM   #53
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They have proof of a injury and how it happened. Accidental foul ended the fight.
Well they can make it that way.
GBP got Hopkins his Pascal rematch.
I see the whole thing a ****ed up mess. Hopkins leaned in too much. Dawson slammed him down. The ref should have warned or at least given Hopkins some time to recover.
"Hey, can you continue ?"
"No"
"You lost by TKO"
....
Maybe instead it should have been -
"Hey, can you continue ?"
"No"
"If you dont you lose by TKO"
What the **** happened to WARNINGS ?
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:11 PM   #54
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According to Asterion's Thread:

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Source: California Code of Regulations (chapter 1. Professional Boxing Rules)

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According to 337, "Pushing an opponent" is a Foul.

Let's say that Dawson didn't want to cause that foul. It's an Unintentional-Foul (see 339):

(a) When a bout is interrupted due to an injury caused by an unintentional foul, the referee in
consultation with the ringside physician shall determine whether the boxer who has been fouled can
continue or not. If the referee sees, or if after consultation with the judges, determines that a boxer is
unintentionally fouled and if the boxer's chance of winning has not been seriously jeopardized as a
result of a foul, the referee may order the bout continued after a reasonable interval. Rev. 9/09 47.

(b) If the referee and/or the ringside physician determine that the bout may not continue
because of an injury suffered as the result of an unintentional foul or because of an injury inflicted by an
unintentional foul which later becomes aggravated by fair blows, the bout must be declared a draw if
the bout is stopped before the bell rings to begin the fourth round. After the bell rings to begin the fourth
round, the outcome shall be determined by scoring the completed rounds and the round during which
the referee or ringside physician stopped the bout.

(c) When an unintentional foul causes the bout to be interrupted for the purpose of allowing the
injured boxer time to recover, the referee shall penalize the boxer guilty of the foul one or more points.


This is also interesting:

" 346. Procedure Where Failure To Compete.
In any case where the referee decides that the contestants are not honestly competing, that the
knockdown is a "dive," or the foul a prearranged termination of the bout, the referee shall not finish the
knockdown count or disqualify for fouling or render a decision, but shall stop the bout not later than
before the end of the last round and order purses of both boxers held pending investigation and
disposition of the funds by the commission. The announcer shall inform the audience that no decision Rev. 9/09 49.
has been rendered."
That seems pretty clear cut to me.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:54 PM   #55
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Scratch my last post. I took another look at the fight.
Hopkins was asked if he could continue and he said yes, but with one hand only. He said it twice and the referee called the fight off.
Because the referee said there was no foul Hopkins lost by TKO as a result of self inflicted injuries.
Thats utter bull crap .
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:35 PM   #56
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I personally don't think it's likely to be overturned, but apparently many people do. We'll give it another day just in case. If it's still officially down as a TKO by Monday, the bets will be settled.

If it gets changed to a NC, the event will be abandoned and all stakes will be returned.

It's not like there's any reason to be in a hurry to get your vCash, since there are no threads up yet to bet on for next week or beyond. (and definitely won't be until after Monday anyway)
Doesn't matter if it subsequently gets overturned.

Bookies pay out on the result on the night.

What kind of tin-pot operation is this?

Hand over the vcash you thieving cunts!
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:44 PM   #57
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I've seen a lot of shit over the years but this is really testing my faith in thr game. Boxing is on it's last legs for a reason.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:33 AM   #58
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Doesn't matter if it subsequently gets overturned.

Bookies pay out on the result on the night.

What kind of tin-pot operation is this?

Hand over the vcash you thieving cunts!
For real man. What is this shit? Dawson won the fight. I already got paid by my real money bookie, now I want my damned V-Cash.

Hopkins' old ass losing due to an injury was a very real possibility and all you butt-hurt bettors should have taken that into consideration like I did. Dawson was on his way to a dominating win anyway.
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Old 10-17-2011, 09:04 PM   #59
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what the hell?? where's my imaginary money
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:25 PM   #60
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You knuckleheads need to STFU.

I don't believe TKO2 was the wrong call.

I don't believe it will be overturned.

I'm delaying the payouts to a) humor the drama queens who DO believe the two fallacies listed above and b) to prove a point, and rub their faces in it when a few days go by with no change in the official result.

As for everybody else (including those awaiting their gains) - you have no reason to care about the extra few days. It does not matter whether you get paid Sunday morning or Wednesday night. There are no vBookie events to bet on currently (not even next week's action, which won't go up until Thursday or Friday as is usually the case anyways). Hurry up and fork over your vCash ...so you can do jackshit with it? Really? That's what you're whining and demanding? Just for that, I might wait until Thursday. Or, if you really piss me off - maybe the Donaire-Narvaez thread will come and go and you all will miss the party because a wrathful bookie decided not to pay you on this one until next week.

Do not **** with me. Patience is indeed a virtue, but not my thickest one.
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