believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won

greatone · 10-11-2011, 12:30 PM

I say this because whether you are famous or infamous, in boxing it is all good for getting fights. I think at this point, Victor is definitely infamous. Now alot of people are wanting to fight him to show how weak he is in the ring (big mistake). What fighters don't realize is that Victor can still beat the majority of fighters at welterweight. So I think Victor should eat it up and start cashing in on some potentially great match ups in the division and hopefully pick up some belts along the way.

PH|LLA · 10-11-2011, 12:31 PM

Berto takes the rematch I've been saying this from day 1

MrMagic · 10-11-2011, 12:32 PM

Will not be long and we'll see Vic getting beat up and thrown in the bin. (I think Amir Khan would thuroughly dominate him)
Berto would beat him up with a defined gameplan, hell.. he'd stop him.

Bladegunner · 10-11-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PH|LLA

Berto takes the rematch I've been saying this from day 1

You also said from day won that berto would win their first fight.

chitownfightfan · 10-11-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladegunner

You also said from day won that berto would win their first fight.

I took Berto too, but Victor laid out a gameplan and followed it to a T. Take Dre into the deep water and he can be drown.

We'll see whether or not Berto has learned from that. I'm a Berto fan, though I like Ortiz since his fight with PHONY, but I'd tip Berto in a rematch. Here's hoping we get it.

slugger3000 · 10-11-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by greatone

I say this because whether you are famous or infamous, in boxing it is all good for getting fights. I think at this point, Victor is definitely infamous. Now alot of people are wanting to fight him to show how weak he is in the ring (big mistake). What fighters don't realize is that Victor can still beat the majority of fighters at welterweight. So I think Victor should eat it up and start cashing in on some potentially great match ups in the division and hopefully pick up some belts along the way.

He would of also gave void a good fight!

slugger3000 · 10-11-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PH|LLA

Berto takes the rematch I've been saying this from day 1

Bullshit, victor would kick his ass again!

bald_head_slick · 10-11-2011, 02:07 PM

He will get one maybe two more sizeable fights. Unfortunately I am starting to REALLY worry about his mental state.

Berto will take the rematch and if Berto's coaching, strategy, and application of tactics is right? Berto wins. Kahn takes the fight and for Kahn this is a dangerous fight. If Kahn wins? Bradley may come knocking. If he cuts weight? Maidana will come calling. Sprinkle Rios in there somewhere for a fun grudge match. Soto, Holt, etc...

Ortiz does have a future, however it is a TOUGH road to hoe. I really worry if he has the mental toughness to make it through. If he loses any two of the fights above? I don't see him surviving mentally.

bald_head_slick · 10-11-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by slugger3000

Bullshit, victor would kick his ass again!

If Berto slugs.

Doc · 10-11-2011, 02:27 PM

Berto will just be another win for him.

Goro · 10-11-2011, 02:33 PM

Mike Jones would beat him.

slugger3000 · 10-11-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Goro

Mike Jones would beat him.

That would be a good fight, id like to see it! Id favor Ortiz to win but you never know.. Its a fight after all!

kommieforniaglo · 10-11-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by greatone

I say this because whether you are famous or infamous, in boxing it is all good for getting fights. I think at this point, Victor is definitely infamous. Now alot of people are wanting to fight him to show how weak he is in the ring (big mistake). What fighters don't realize is that Victor can still beat the majority of fighters at welterweight. So I think Victor should eat it up and start cashing in on some potentially great match ups in the division and hopefully pick up some belts along the way.

You the following is you:

Back Hand Slap · 10-11-2011, 02:59 PM

Thats the way I see it to man. Victor was always going to lose to May, but the way he lost was much better for his career than being dominated or properly stopped. It leaves question marks about him, and he may still believe he would have won had it went on properly, which is good for his own ego. It was a blessing in disguise for Vic. Maybe he will get a shot again at May in the future and be ready then. I wish him all the best.

saul_ir34 · 10-11-2011, 03:06 PM

Victor takes Berto out this time. He is just too open for a big puncher like Ortiz. Hell in Bertos last fight he looked like he was on his way to being stopped by a much lighter puncher.

I want to see a rematch of that instead as it was a fight Berto was about to lose.

10-11-2011, 12:30 PM	#1
greatone Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Phoenix by way of Memphis Posts: 515 vCash: 177	believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won I say this because whether you are famous or infamous, in boxing it is all good for getting fights. I think at this point, Victor is definitely infamous. Now alot of people are wanting to fight him to show how weak he is in the ring (big mistake). What fighters don't realize is that Victor can still beat the majority of fighters at welterweight. So I think Victor should eat it up and start cashing in on some potentially great match ups in the division and hopefully pick up some belts along the way.
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PH\|LLA ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: YUL Posts: 46,635 vCash: 5685	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won Berto takes the rematch I've been saying this from day 1
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MrMagic Super Six East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 24,441 vCash: 1000	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won Will not be long and we'll see Vic getting beat up and thrown in the bin. (I think Amir Khan would thuroughly dominate him) Berto would beat him up with a defined gameplan, hell.. he'd stop him.
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bald_head_slick P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the ring with you impossible to drop Posts: 21,854 vCash: 1000	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won He will get one maybe two more sizeable fights. Unfortunately I am starting to REALLY worry about his mental state. Berto will take the rematch and if Berto's coaching, strategy, and application of tactics is right? Berto wins. Kahn takes the fight and for Kahn this is a dangerous fight. If Kahn wins? Bradley may come knocking. If he cuts weight? Maidana will come calling. Sprinkle Rios in there somewhere for a fun grudge match. Soto, Holt, etc... Ortiz does have a future, however it is a TOUGH road to hoe. I really worry if he has the mental toughness to make it through. If he loses any two of the fights above? I don't see him surviving mentally.
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Doc "Slick White Chocolate" East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The City Of Angels. Posts: 8,980 vCash: 1000	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won Berto will just be another win for him. Last edited by Doc; 10-11-2011 at 03:07 PM.
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Goro Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,344 vCash: 2741	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won Mike Jones would beat him.
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Back Hand Slap Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,165 vCash: 1000	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won Thats the way I see it to man. Victor was always going to lose to May, but the way he lost was much better for his career than being dominated or properly stopped. It leaves question marks about him, and he may still believe he would have won had it went on properly, which is good for his own ego. It was a blessing in disguise for Vic. Maybe he will get a shot again at May in the future and be ready then. I wish him all the best.
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10-11-2011, 03:06 PM	#15
saul_ir34 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11,206 vCash: 675	Re: believe it or not, Victor Ortiz actually won Victor takes Berto out this time. He is just too open for a big puncher like Ortiz. Hell in Bertos last fight he looked like he was on his way to being stopped by a much lighter puncher. I want to see a rematch of that instead as it was a fight Berto was about to lose.
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