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View Poll Results: who is the greatest og all time?
Sugar Ray Robinson 103 45.98%
Roberto Duran 13 5.80%
Ray Leonard 13 5.80%
Muhammad Ali 46 20.54%
Floyd Mayweather 21 9.38%
Sam Langford 7 3.13%
Archie Moore 3 1.34%
Henry Armstrong 11 4.91%
Jack Johnson 3 1.34%
Julio Cesar Chavez 4 1.79%
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:02 PM   #151
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Decided to vote for Duran because I can.
Duran lost to all the legends he fought!!!! overrated!!!
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:05 PM   #152
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PBF if he beats Pac, Khan, Bradley!
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:35 PM   #153
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props

but really though when its comes to resumes great ones are great ones and ali's is great.even if greb's is better,to say its head and shoulders above ali's is ridiculous and assumptive.can you honestly say you've seen enough of greb's opponents (outside of tunney and walker) to make that case?
Yes. There's footage of Tommy Loughran, Kid Norfolk, Mike Gibbons, Tommy Gibbons, Bill Brennan, Mike O'Dowd, George Chip, and I think there's footage of Battling Levinsky as well, though I haven't seen it. Not sure about Jack Dillon. All of these men's records speak for themselves. Brennan wouldn't be on the level of the others, but he would be a large Heavyweight by the era's standards that the Middleweight Greb was handling.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:41 PM   #154
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Why is Floyd Mayweather Sr. on the list?
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:47 PM   #155
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Floyd Mayweather in his list?
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:25 PM   #156
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Armstrong!
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:52 PM   #157
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Srr
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:09 PM   #158
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are you ****ing kidding me? look at my avatar you ****ing idiot.just out of interest how many fights of greb have YOU seen? you'd think you covered their fights the way you go on.saying grebs resume is HEAD AND SHOULDERS above ali's is quite simply ridiculous

you should take your own advice,its your opinion thats silly and you are clearly the one speaking through bias

you're also a self righteous,arrogant prick that forces his thoughts down other people's throats
Wow, more personal attacks. Scary stuff, Big Al. I don't have to see Greb's fights to know that he beat more Hall of Famers than anyone in history. I have seen just about all the existing footage of the great men he beat and in a lot of cases, beat easily. Greb was a one of a kind, no one would argue that. Of course I would LOVE to see his fights, but since I can't, I have to go to the MANY newspaper reports from different newspapers and different writers. They all revered him. They had no agenda to build this man up. His incredible resume built him up. His style has been described by so many different people and they all seem to concur that he was a fast, tough, perpetual motion machine that beat all of the great middleweights, light heavyweights & heavyweights of his time, the ones that would fight him, that is. He beat men so much bigger than him and for about 5 years, did it while blind in one eye.

Look at your avatar? Yeah, that's the great Roberto Duran. I love the guy. So, I assume your point is that because Duran is on your avatar that you can't have a passion for Ali. I love him too. Ali was also a one of a kind. I didn't in any way say that Ali was the ONLY fighter that you like. Come on, guy, you are reaching here. It'll be ok.

And yes, Greb's resume is HEAD AND SHOULDERS above EVERYONE who EVER competed in the sport of boxing. I believe you had another historian tell you the same thing, well, actually she said "head, shoulders, torso, ****, etc" Hahaha. That was funny, but so true. You can say I am arrogant all you want. I have never allowed myself to be brought down by other people's negative opinions of me, so I won't make an exception this time. I am, in no way forcing my opinion on anyone. The consensus is the consensus and you don't seem to like it.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:04 PM   #160
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Duran lost to all the legends he fought!!!! overrated!!!
ALL OF THE LEGENDS THAT DURAN LOST TO WERE BIGGER THAN HE WAS.Cheers.genius.
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Old 10-13-2011, 11:27 PM   #161
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When you speak of GOAT, it entails many different aspects of the sport, to include;

1) Talent
2) Ring generalship
3) Competition
4) Entertainment value
5) Adversity
6) BIG fights
7) Out Of The Ring persona
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Looking at each fighter and scoring based on the above, I have these fighters listed as the greatest;

1) Ali
2) Sugra Ray Robinson
3) Jack Johnson
4) Sugar ray Leonard
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:08 AM   #162
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Greb, Langford , Robinson , Duran , Jimmy Wilde , Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Ali, Ricardo Lopez, Juan Manuel Marquez
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:14 AM   #163
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Greb, Langford , Robinson , Duran , Jimmy Wilde , Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Ali, Ricardo Lopez, Juan Manuel Marquez

I love Lopez and Marquez, but they aren't on the level of the other cats you mentioned.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:24 AM   #164
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I love Lopez and Marquez, but they aren't on the level of the other cats you mentioned.
+1. Neither is Jimmy Wilde.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:40 AM   #165
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LOL. 15 Flomos actually voted for him.
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