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Old 10-15-2011, 09:09 AM   #1
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Default Who will pick up the baton at 140....

after Amir Khan and Tim Bradley officially ditch the division?

Kendall Holt

Holt, a devastating puncher with good handspeed, can crush his opponents when he's on form. On a good day, he puts his punches together well and can bang to head and body.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGfUDI2d2H4[/ame]

But whilst his punching ability make him a potentially dangerous opponent to many, his lack of ring I.Q and questionable punch resisting make him an even more dangerous opponent for himself.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JL4uxrFLAQ[/ame]

After a good start against Timothy Bradley, he ditched his jab and fell into a lackadaisical rut, being soundly outpointed although he did make Tim touch down briefly late as well. He didn't put his shots together and fell in love with his power, which will always be a problem for him. He always holds wins over Demetrious Hopkins (a bizarre split decision, where I felt he won comfortably) David Diaz, Isaac Hlatshwayo, and has gone 1-1 in two highly controversial bouts with fellow vulnerable gunslinger Ricardo Torres.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iVdvzjA-IY[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4hCva2esz8&feature=related[/ame]

He has a good test tonight in his first fight back at 140 following a keep busy fight at Welterweight with Julio Diaz, a career Lightweight who is past his best and has always had the reputation of being chinny. Danny Garcia is a decent prospect and ranked no.9 by The Ring (home cooking IMO), and if he pulls off the upset he legitimises himself as a genuine contender in a still stacked 140lb division.

Robert Guerrero

Guerrero is now looking to snatch a scalp or two at 140lbs, after previously claiming straps at 126 and 135lbs. A sharp punching southpaw, 'The Ghost' is untested at this weight, but has just put in a career best performance against perennial contender Michael Katsidis, comfortably outboxing the always game Australian pressure fighter, and battering him with accurate shots from mid-range for 12 rounds.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=397Lzj9e2iA[/ame]

Guerrero has never stayed in a division long enough to make a claim for the no.1 spot, will this change at 140lbs? He has decent wins over Escebedo, Klassen and Litzau as well as a win over a past-it Joel Casamayor, where Guerrero was sat down late after fighting well early.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D31ShWI5HfY[/ame]

Will Guerrero be at the weight long enough to make a run at ruling the division?

Lucas Matthysse

A far more well-schooled puncher than his compatriot Marcos Maidana, Lucas Matthysse impressed many with his effort against Zab Judah last year.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucmJ_BHR3oI[/ame]

Similarly hard done by against Devon Alexander over ten rounds, who like Zab he sent to the canvas, Matthyse also beat up faded former titlist Vivian Harris, and drubbed tricky veteran DeMarcus Corley. A matchup with former amateur rival Maidana makes sense to me.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHe3rCGvHDA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL86C2948F52765373[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jpOgiC7LfU&feature=related[/ame]

Marcos Maidana

Will he move up in weight as well. 'Chinese' Maidana is a fearless slugger who can be outmanouvered but is rarely outfought. He can be hurt, stung and dropped, but he has heavy hands and sheer toughness that make him a dangerous contender despite his apparent crudeness. After taking on Kotelnik overseas and going the distance in a close and competitive 12 rounder, the man from Argentina looked to be better than his built-up record suggested. When hot prospect Victor Ortiz was put in with him, Maidana got off the deck to batter him to a stoppage.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2jSMVOxA8c[/ame]

But Maidana is known to most for his action-packed fight with the now no.1 in the division (IMO) Amir Khan, who he had on queer street late in the fight but ultimately lost a wide decision to.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYFqvXUwVjM[/ame]

Which leads nicely into

Erik Morales

An outside bet, the veteran 'El Terrble' has had to pare his game down, but is now using ring smarts to find openings and remain competitive with younger, fresher, and more powerful opposition. Considered by many including myself to be a lamb to the slaughter against Marcos Maidana, Morales fought superbly throughout despite a grossly swelled eye from round one and a relentless opponent, demonstrating why he is one of the toughest blokes in the history of boxing, but struggled to keep pace down the stretch and lost a decision in a competitive fight. The stylistic matchup ultimately favoured Morales, with the sloppy and slow Maidana being perfect for him to pick his shots against, and use his ring smarts to avoid shipping too much damage.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGqzzrICNHI[/ame]

Whereas the consensus beforehand was that Morales-Maidana was an unnecessary matchup, after it Morales was given heaps of respect. Scheduled to fight Lucas Matthysse, it was again seen as a bad fight for him. Matthysse, less wild and more patient that Maidana, was felt to have a big edge on the Mexican legend. The fight was cancelled, but is it still down the line? Morales instead faced relatively untested prospect Pablo Cesar Cano, and beat him up to force a stoppage, bloodying him with choppy shots and landing a lot of right hands.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFgF9DrTyDA&feature=related[/ame]

I would say Morales doesn't have much longer left, and will eventually come up against someone too fast and fresh enugh to outlast him. I don't see him proving himself the best at 140.

If none of these, then who?

Kotelnik, Alvarado, Katsidis, Rios, Garcia?

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Old 10-15-2011, 09:18 AM   #2
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

That's actually a very hard question.

I can't see Matthysse claiming the spot. If he makes fights with Judah & Alexander close, I can't see him being #1.

Holt - Possibly. All depending on how he does tonight.

Maidana - No, don't think so.

Kotelnik - Not skilled enough, unfortunately. Doesn't have a high quality skill-set.

Alvarado - Haven't seen him box, to be honest.

Katsidis - Nah, not at this stage.

Rios - Good possibility, but he'll be facing some tough game fighters if he comes up.

Garcia - All depending on how he does tonight.

Guerrero - I give him a chance, but like Rios, he's not tested at 140.

Benavidez - Bit early, but he's looking damn good and the sparring he's getting is the best, but I see him going to 147. The guy is freakin' 6'1.

Ajose Olusugen - I was pretty impressed with him in his last fight. (only saw highlights, though)

Their styles make for some great fights, but out of these guys I pick..

Rios, Guerrero, Benavidez, Holt and possibly Matthysse/Maidana (because of their equalizers)
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:19 AM   #3
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

Kendall Holt has always been talented yet highly inconsistent, I could see him winning an alphabet strap but not staying up at the top for long. Morales has been doing well recently but theres still quite a few fighters who would beat him. Out of those mentioned I would pick Mathysse to pick up the baton, or Rios should he move up.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:21 AM   #4
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

It wouldn't surprise me to see Guerrero do it, actually.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:24 AM   #5
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:27 AM   #6
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:33 AM   #7
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hes big for his own weight so doubt he will be able to fight at 140, and why should he when there are more interesting fights in his weight
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:33 AM   #8
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

Guerrero for me. Though except for a fight against Rios or Maidana there isnt much there. Think if any can make the weight they (Rios, Maidana, Guerrero, Matthysse) will chase the money at welter after picking up a strap and leave light welter pretty poor for a few years albeit competative.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:38 AM   #9
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

Definately guerrero, although i see it being a problem for him to get the fights.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:40 AM   #10
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Lucas Matthyse, unless he carries on getting robbed
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:53 AM   #11
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

guerrero, matthyse maybe holt for me, from what ive seen of alvarado he looks decent and im guessing holds a decent ranking with the soon to be vacant IBF, im gonna throw a name out there, not someone i consider having a chance to be no1 in the division, but someone who looks decent at light-welter, and will at least (imo) be a decent gatekeeper and could pick up a strap or provide a decent test for some of the more fragile of the names mentioned above....Breidis Prescott (him versus maidana would be war)
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:29 AM   #12
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

I'd love it to be Holt but I wouldn't be surprised if he lost tonight. I think Guerrero is the most likely, he handled Katsidis brilliantly and I think he would beat both Argentines based on that.
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Old 10-15-2011, 10:31 AM   #13
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Default Re: Who will pick up the baton at 140....

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Why are you jacking Koki_Kameda's gig?

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Old 10-15-2011, 10:36 AM   #14
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Guerrero is a very good shout lads, how I forgot him but thought of Katsidis I don't know

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Old 10-15-2011, 10:46 AM   #15
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Maidana, RG or Matthysee. Can see Maidana going up to 147 by the end of next year though. and Maidana didn't lose a "wide" UD to Khan. a wide UD would be something like 117--111 not 113-112 and 114-111.
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