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Old 10-23-2011, 12:55 PM   #1
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Default Better LHW resume? Hopkins or Dawson

Who do you think has the better resume and why?
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:59 PM   #2
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Dawson's resume at LHW is built on an old Johnson and an old Tarver, but Adamek is very impressive to me.

Hopkins has Tarver (weight drained?), Winky Wright, a Loss to Joe Calzaghe, Kelly Pavlik, Enrique Ornelas, an old Roy, and Jean Pascal, the Pascal win is most impressive to me out of all of those, but not as impressive as the Adamek win that Dawson holds.

50/50, Dawson has the greatest single win (Adamek) but Hopkins has the greater accomplishments.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:08 PM   #3
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Id say its close real close Hopkins may just edge it due to the fact he beat Pascal and Pascal beat Dawson

I mean Hopkins fought Jones after suffering a round 1 KO, Pavlik was not suited for the weight, Orneleas was a tune up moving up in weight, and Winky was a blown up 154 lber who was way out of his element at 170

Dawson may have fought old foes but he beat them and except for the first Johnson fight he won pretty easily
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:13 PM   #4
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Dawson's resume at LHW is built on an old Johnson and an old Tarver, but Adamek is very impressive to me.

Hopkins has Tarver (weight drained?), Winky Wright, a Loss to Joe Calzaghe, Kelly Pavlik, Enrique Ornelas, an old Roy, and Jean Pascal, the Pascal win is most impressive to me out of all of those, but not as impressive as the Adamek win that Dawson holds.

50/50, Dawson has the greatest single win (Adamek) but Hopkins has the greater accomplishments.
It is tough to call. Did you take into account Dawsons loss to Pascal?
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:19 PM   #5
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It is tough to call. Did you take into account Dawsons loss to Pascal?
I did, but when I look at Hopkins LHW resume, it could be argued that Tarver was weight drained (what goes around comes around.) Winky and Pavlik were 160 pounders by that point, Ornelas and Jones amounted to what were basically tune up fights.

Dawson lost to Pascal, then Hopkins pounced on Jean who stylistically matches up far better with him than Dawson does on paper, but that win over Adamek who was undefeated at that point is much more impressive to me than any win Hopkins has.

Another bone of contention is that Dawson is natrually bigger than Hopkins, and 175 is his natrual weight class, to be honest the 170 catchweights thay Hopkins fought seemed perfect for him.

Dawson losing to Pascal is not too different to Hopkins losing to Calzaghe, in the way that both are controversial.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:22 PM   #6
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No competition. Junk thread.
Please close and relegate to the Joke thread s****e heap.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:24 PM   #7
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Hopkins beat a smaller Pavlik and Wright, an old Tarver, an over rated Pascal and lost to Calzaghe.

Dawson beat and old Tarver and Johnson twice, a weight drained Adamek and lost to an over rated Pascal.

The difference? Hopkins has the better names and held the linear championship. So at this point its Hopkins by a mile. However, I feel Dawson will be "the man" at LHW for the next few years.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:41 PM   #8
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I did, but when I look at Hopkins LHW resume, it could be argued that Tarver was weight drained (what goes around comes around.) Winky and Pavlik were 160 pounders by that point, Ornelas and Jones amounted to what were basically tune up fights.

Dawson lost to Pascal, then Hopkins pounced on Jean who stylistically matches up far better with him than Dawson does on paper, but that win over Adamek who was undefeated at that point is much more impressive to me than any win Hopkins has.

Another bone of contention is that Dawson is natrually bigger than Hopkins, and 175 is his natrual weight class, to be honest the 170 catchweights thay Hopkins fought seemed perfect for him.

Dawson losing to Pascal is not too different to Hopkins losing to Calzaghe, in the way that both are controversial.
don't forget Dawson has a win over Diaconu.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:50 PM   #9
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Who do you think has the better resume and why?
Dawson has the better resume. His best wins at lhw are actually against lhws not fighters moving up 1-2 divisions

Hopkins
Tarver
Pascal

Dawson
Ademek
G.Johnson I
G.Johnson II
Tarver I
Tarver II
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Dawson has the better resume. His best wins at lhw are actually against lhws not fighters moving up 1-2 divisions

Hopkins
Tarver
Pascal

Dawson
Ademek
G.Johnson I
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Tarver I
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Dawson also has a win over Adrian Diaconu, former WBC champion who ended up losing his belt to Pascal.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:30 PM   #12
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Dawson also has a win over Adrian Diaconu, former WBC champion who ended up losing his belt to Pascal.

Your bias. Your avatar says it all.
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Dawson.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:37 PM   #14
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Your bias. Your avatar says it all.
I'm bias, but I'm not downgrading Hopkins resume at LHW. IMO I just think Dawson has a better resume at LHW. If you want to go by careers, obviously Hopkins has the better resume.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:51 PM   #15
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Useless thread, Bernard only fought 5 times as a LHW including Winky at 170 and Pavlik. Doesn't prove ****!
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