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Old 10-17-2011, 06:49 PM   #31
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They should be made public after every round
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:35 PM   #32
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No way, part of the beauty of boxing, is the suspense of waiting for a decision...

Making the score public after every round, really will not help.

For argument's sake, what happens if the home town boy is getting his arse kicked? Rather than handing your card in and running for cover, you as a judge, have to piss the crowd off every round, and they know where you are sitting...

Would you have the balls to put yourself in that position? I Know I would not.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:06 PM   #33
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Tbooze is right plus fact fighters who are winning by a few can then become negative and coast like say Cleverly the other night if he knew he was winning by a few on 2 cards he'd of not tear'd up with Bellew right to the very end and also it ruins the suspense of the decisions at end. I've seen fights after round 4 have cards announced and once you know judges are favoring a certain fighters work and it's say 40-36 you lose interest in fight points wise unless there's a major swing in the fight.
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Old 10-18-2011, 04:22 AM   #34
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yes. You can usually dig them up afterwards if you give a shit but it should be a bit easier to do IMO.
And round by round would also be good GOC
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:21 AM   #35
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They should be made public after every round

They have already tried this at the WBC and it was a stupid idea with fighters knowing they are up by so much they coast to the finish line keeping it safe, I think Mormeck did this v Bell if I am right? he was told he was so far ahead and just basically did nothing to hang on for the win.

Terrible idea.
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:42 AM   #36
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No way, part of the beauty of boxing, is the suspense of waiting for a decision...

Making the score public after every round, really will not help.

For argument's sake, what happens if the home town boy is getting his arse kicked? Rather than handing your card in and running for cover, you as a judge, have to piss the crowd off every round, and they know where you are sitting...

Would you have the balls to put yourself in that position? I Know I would not.
I would rather forgo a little suspense, to improve the scoring system and make it more transparent.

If the fight was close and it came down to the last round, the suspense would remain the same. If the fight was a one-sided beat down, knowing the scores after every round would be irrelevant, except for trying to prevent dubious scoring.

If lots of rounds are very close, but judges are scoring for a particular fighter, it would give the opponent chance to step up his game, and make for more interesting fights.

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Tbooze is right plus fact fighters who are winning by a few can then become negative and coast like say Cleverly the other night if he knew he was winning by a few on 2 cards he'd of not tear'd up with Bellew right to the very end and also it ruins the suspense of the decisions at end. I've seen fights after round 4 have cards announced and once you know judges are favoring a certain fighters work and it's say 40-36 you lose interest in fight points wise unless there's a major swing in the fight.

Yes there is the danger of a fighter coasting. But on the other hand, a fighter who knows he is down on the cards would be given the opportunity to seek and destroy.
How many times does a fighter try to box his way to a points win, in what appears a close fight. Then it transpires it was impossible for him to win that way.

IMO releasing the score cards after every round, would make for more action, closer fights, and more pressure on judges to score correctly.
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I would rather forgo a little suspense, to improve the scoring system and make it more transparent.

If the fight was close and it came down to the last round, the suspense would remain the same. If the fight was a one-sided beat down, knowing the scores after every round would be irrelevant, except for trying to prevent dubious scoring.

If lots of rounds are very close, but judges are scoring for a particular fighter, it would give the opponent chance to step up his game, and make for more interesting fights.




Yes there is the danger of a fighter coasting. But on the other hand, a fighter who knows he is down on the cards would be given the opportunity to seek and destroy.
How many times does a fighter try to box his way to a points win, in what appears a close fight. Then it transpires it was impossible for him to win that way.

IMO releasing the score cards after every round, would make for more action, closer fights, and more pressure on judges to score correctly.
Do you realise this has already been tried and was deemed a failure? It was a shit idea then and is a shit idea now.
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:07 AM   #38
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What you could do is copy the Torvill and Dean thing, all you need is some low rent scoreboard that spits up the numbers at the end of the fight.

In lieu of the judges nationality you'd have a 10 or a 9, and instead of the 6.0 from the British judge and the 5.1 from the French judge you'd have the 10 or 9 for the other fighter.

Copy the examples of rugby and cricket for fast tracking of officials, many of the refs in super league started in their mid-20's.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:05 PM   #39
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Do you realise this has already been tried and was deemed a failure? It was a shit idea then and is a shit idea now.
That was not a test that was fleeting glance.

A big change to the scoring system would need hundreds of fights just to bed-in properly.

Fans just hate change, but I am sure there would be benefits in the future of such a change.

The current scoring system is a complete joke.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:48 PM   #40
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I'm totally against open scoring.
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I'm totally against open scoring.
Me to mate I thought it was shocking last time and was propmtly ****ed off.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:20 PM   #42
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Just make the round by round scores public after the fight
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Old 10-19-2011, 03:53 AM   #43
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Just make the round by round scores public after the fight
That's my thoughts, transprency imminently after the fight.
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