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Old 09-21-2007, 01:55 PM   #46
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If boxers started using 4 oz gloves there would be more shattered hands because unlike ufc fighters boxers do punch with a extreme amount of force behind there punches, less padding less protection. I remember about 5 or 6 years ago my dad took me to a gym were Michael Moorer was training in Pittsburgh, I was amazed by how hard he hit the punching bag and when he was sparring the power he had was unbelievable, if any MMA guy seen what I seen that day they would of pissed themselves if someone told them to get in the ring with him. I know its two different sports but to be honest if Moorer hit one them with one punch I really think it would be over, anybody that disagrees go to a good boxers open training session and see for yourself.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:24 PM   #47
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If boxers started using 4 oz gloves there would be more shattered hands because unlike ufc fighters boxers do punch with a extreme amount of force behind there punches, less padding less protection. I remember about 5 or 6 years ago my dad took me to a gym were Michael Moorer was training in Pittsburgh, I was amazed by how hard he hit the punching bag and when he was sparring the power he had was unbelievable, if any MMA guy seen what I seen that day they would of pissed themselves if someone told them to get in the ring with him. I know its two different sports but to be honest if Moorer hit one them with one punch I really think it would be over, anybody that disagrees go to a good boxers open training session and see for yourself.
dude. so are you stating with a straight face that "UFC" fighters (surely you mean mma) don't punch with extreme force? what about muay thai fighters? have boxers cornered the market on size, strength, power and technique?

children like yourself who make such foolish statements have lost all credibility when reasonable people are discussing reasonable subjects.

maybe your daddy give you a ride to an mma or muay thai training facility so you can see the heavy bag go boom when it gets hit.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:39 PM   #48
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Really? Everyone would get KO'd inside of 2 rounds? Really?

I know fighters in the old days weren't exactly the same near super human athletes that the fighters of today are, but when I look at the boxing gloves that Jack Dempsey used, the boxing gloves that Gene Tunney used, I'm not all too convinced that they were much heavier than MMA gloves.

Jack Johnson was a tough puncher, and he went over 20 rounds with Moran using TINY gloves by today's standards.

Stop overrating these guy's punching power. They aren't GODS, they are human beings, and it's not like they would be KOing each other all the time with one punch if they weren't wearing boxing gloves.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:47 PM   #49
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dude. so are you stating with a straight face that "UFC" fighters (surely you mean mma) don't punch with extreme force? what about muay thai fighters? have boxers cornered the market on size, strength, power and technique?

children like yourself who make such foolish statements have lost all credibility when reasonable people are discussing reasonable subjects.

maybe your daddy give you a ride to an mma or muay thai training facility so you can see the heavy bag go boom when it gets hit.
I watched my friends hit the bag and they been involved in Mua thai for close to 3 years now and none of them know how to punch with any force, Im 22 and I could say with a straight face I hit harder than most of the guys I seen fight in ufc. I will say the friends I sparred with that are involved in muay thai have amazing stamina, just lack any type of real power in there punches.
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I watched my friends hit the bag and they been involved in Mua thai for close to 3 years now and none of them know how to punch with any force, Im 22 and I could say with a straight face I hit harder than most of the guys I seen fight in ufc. I will say the friends I sparred with that are involved in muay thai have amazing stamina, just lack any type of real power in there punches.
Lol.

You could say it with a straight face, sure, but that's only because you are stupid, not because you are right.

Honestly, you do not punch harder than the professional strikers in the UFC. Get real man. If Ding said that I'd take it at face value immediately, because he is a top cruiserweight, of course he does. If Vicious Boxer said that, of course I'd believe him, have you SEEN his right hand? But you?

Who is you?
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:03 PM   #51
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Lol.

You could say it with a straight face, sure, but that's only because you are stupid, not because you are right.

Honestly, you do not punch harder than the professional strikers in the UFC. Get real man. If Ding said that I'd take it at face value immediately, because he is a top cruiserweight, of course he does. If Vicious Boxer said that, of course I'd believe him, have you SEEN his right hand? But you?

Who is you?
Vicious is no joke I seen him hitting bag on u tube. But seriously I been training in boxing for about 9 years now off and on, and while there is a few guys that would give me a hard time in the boxing ring but for the most part these guys lack basic boxing ability, I seen them throw punches I could of countered with my eyes closed. I never said I could get in the octagon and kick there ass, all Im saying is I do have a boxing background and it is doubtful that most of them with limited boxing ability could step in the ring with me and beat me just like it would be very doubtful that I could step in the octagon and beat them.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:13 PM   #52
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Chuck Lidell and Anderson Silva and Fedor Emelianenko and George St. Pierre and Mauricio Rua and Rampage Jackson are no Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis, not by a long shot.

But they can still punch very hard, is all I am saying. Their boxing might suck, seriously, sometimes it is atrocious. In a boxing match, most of the time, I would only give these fighters "a puncher's chance".

But I do give them a puncher's chance, and the reason I do is because they do have very real power.

I wouldn't be surprised if a non-championship caliber fighter could beat them in a boxing match or KO them in a boxing match. But that doesn't mean that they don't generate a lot of power in their punches.

It's very possible, and probably likely, that the hardest puncher in the history of the world never had or had a very unsuccessful boxing career. Lots of punching power does not immediately equal a good boxer. It is not a slight to boxing to admit that the some of the top MMA fighters have powerful punches, it doesn't mean they would stand a chance in a boxing ring.

Look at Sam Peter.
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