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View Poll Results: Is this the most significant fight in MMA history to date?
Yes, no other fight has this historical importance 6 11.54%
Possibly yes, we'll have to see how this 7 year deal goes 12 23.08%
Not for the hardcore fans, but for the sport as a whole yes 17 32.69%
No, another matchup was bigger and more important. (State which one) 16 30.77%
Is Dana White involved? Then I must hate, **** DANA WHITE!!! 1 1.92%
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:16 PM   #16
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then it was Lesnar vs Carwin.

This is the way MMA is promoted, it is to appeal to morons. Everything is "the best ever" until the next "best ever" comes along.

This type of hyperbole sells so the rest of us have to endure it.


Part of the reason I'm more or less done with following the sport, at least in anything more than an extremely casual way. (that and boxing is just more aesthetically pleasing to watch to me; I like some high-level JJ now and then but ****ing hate wrestling with a passion and that's one of the most if not the most dominant disciplines in modern MMA).
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:37 PM   #17
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I'd like to hear the justifications of people thinking this isn't the biggest and most important fight in MMA.
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Old 11-05-2011, 04:46 PM   #18
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best heavyweight fight since cro cop vs fedor back in pride.

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Old 11-05-2011, 04:53 PM   #19
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best heavyweight fight since cro cop vs fedor back in pride.

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Old 11-05-2011, 05:31 PM   #20
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:33 PM   #21
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:54 PM   #22
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then it was Lesnar vs Carwin.

This is the way MMA is promoted, it is to appeal to morons. Everything is "the best ever" until the next "best ever" comes along.

This type of hyperbole sells so the rest of us have to endure it.
The simple fact is that MMA is a growing sport, and that is basically thanks to the UFC and the UFC alone. In North America the sport was going nowhere until Zuffa got involved. Now it is coming along in leaps and bounds. Each marquee fight gets more attention in the mainstream press than the last one.

And if promoting the product by:

* Getting it fully sanctioned and treated as a legitimate sport

* Getting almost all the fighters under one roof

* Making the fights that the fans want to see

* Putting hours of fights live on primetime network TV

* Making it possible to get invested in the midcard fighters and follow their careers

* Having a company President who obviously sincerely loves the sport and is passionate about growing it and legitimizing it, and is taking a long-term view to making the UFC one of the premium sporting brands in the world, on par with the NBA or NASCAR


If only morons find that appealing, then I guess I'm a moron. But if you're a fan of the sport, I can't see how you would hate on what the UFC has done. In a decade it's taken MMA from an all-but-illegal freakshow to legitimate mainstream sport.

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Old 11-06-2011, 01:41 AM   #23
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Not just the two combatants, but everything surrounding the event?

The UFC debuting on Fox Sports and starting its seven-year deal by putting a hugely-anticipated heavyweight title fight on free TV.

Two very, very solid fighters face off in the primes of their careers.

Two professionals who will turn up in shape and show respect for the sport and each other.

The debut of mixed martial arts as a mainstream sport in America.

Is this the most significant fight in MMA history?

And if not, why not?

Nah. Because these two are not yet proven greats, whereas we've had two proven greats in their primes fighting each other before.
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:50 AM   #25
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Nah. Because these two are not yet proven greats, whereas we've had two proven greats in their primes fighting each other before.
You are not looking at the whole picture. They may not yet be proven greats, but there's every indication that they could very well be.

And no fight before this - NO FIGHT - has had anything close to the special circumstances and significance that this one has with being the first UFC heavyweight title fight to be aired live and free on primetime network television.

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You are not looking at the whole picture. They may not yet be proven greats, but there's every indication that they could very well be.

And no fight before this - NO FIGHT - has had anything close to the special circumstances and significance that this one has with being the first UFC heavyweight title fight to be aired live and free on primetime network television.

Then for you it's the most important/significant, but for me it isn't. I'm not so interested in circumstances as a fan, only interested in the quality of the fighters.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:07 AM   #27
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Not really some of the pride shows had 100k packed into Saitama super arena and almost everyone in Japan watching it on new years day.

it's pretty big in America.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:25 AM   #29
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Then for you it's the most important/significant, but for me it isn't. I'm not so interested in circumstances as a fan, only interested in the quality of the fighters.
Well this thread is not about the "quality of the fighters", it is about whether this is "the most important, significant fight". I'm not interested in your personal level of interest. I'm asking about the fight's overall impact on the sport. That's quite a specific question.

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Old 11-06-2011, 09:51 AM   #30
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Not really some of the pride shows had 100k packed into Saitama super arena and almost everyone in Japan watching it on new years day.

it's pretty big in America.

Fedor v CroCop and Fedor v Nog for me as well. Those fighters were significant with top fighters from around the globe from different promotions being invited for the NYE event, packing a huge stadium with huge viewership. Those were the golden age of MMA. At that time both fighters were at their prime and were actually proven fighters as well as top fighters in MMA they were also top fighters in their chosen discipline.

Cain v JDS arent nowhere near as accomplished and the event nowhere near that of Pride.

Who knows what will happen or even if the UFC will continue to exist in 10 years time.
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