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Old 11-11-2011, 04:00 AM   #16
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:14 AM   #17
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:15 AM   #18
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Because against these he will b fighting similar fighters 2 himself , in my 1st post he will b fighting physically improved and superior versions of himself , except from Tyson whom would have eventually bombed him out like he did d 80s versions of Ali .
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:20 AM   #19
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i feel tht McCall n Rahman mite KO Ali Asswell.
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:26 AM   #20
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I would rephrase the question:

"From any era prime for prime what heavyweights have a decent enough chance to beat Ali?"

Taking away the obvious choices (frazier, for example); 3 guys I think had a decent enough chance to beat Ali are:

- Tyson
- Holyfield
- Lennox Lewis (not that sure on this one)

Foreman also has a chance, if he fights a clever fight and doesn't play Ali's game.

Joe Louis is in a class of his own. He is the only ATG HW I consider has even odds (50-50) against Ali
I give the following a shot .
Holmes, Louis, Lewis.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:52 AM   #21
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I believe Tyson vs Ali would be an epic war. Sth like Frazier vs Ali I but more sluggish and with Ali winning.
Lennox would be probably outpointed but I think Holyfield was quite a smart, tricky fighter that would clinch and make it a tough night for Ali so Holy by MD
Bowe fight could go either way between Ali on points and Riddick by KO.
Valuevs gets outpointed...
Current Wlad is too big, strong and safety first to lose so he wins on points
Don't know what about Witali...the one from 'quitter and Lennox' times had a great chance of koing Ali but would probably lose on points. Current one...I don't know. Ali could be too fast, but Vit's strange angles and cutting the ring space may have done the work
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:11 AM   #22
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Valuev is a superior version of Ali?



Just superior , without version of Ali .
I meant it 4 Lewis , Akinwande & d Klitschkos , not superior in every aspect but more formidable opponents 4 sure .
Valuev would not have needed 2 cheat vs Cooper & Terrell and would not have needed judges' help with Norton , Chuvalo & Doug Jones .
I also don't c him having 2 much problems with Frazier whom he would have carried unless Frazier hurts his belly 2 much and then taken out .
Valuev would not have had problems with Ali more than Ali would have had with him .
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:15 AM   #23
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Valuev , Vitali , Wladimir , Bowe , Lewis , Foreman , Akinwande , Tyson .
Valuev - best heavyweight of all times !!!! The type that also rans such as Ali,Frazier,Louis,Marciano,Frazier and Dempsey could only aspire to being like in their dreams.
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Old 11-11-2011, 07:19 AM   #25
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Valuev is a superior version of Ali?



Methinks Frankenfurter's been on the sauce.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:04 AM   #26
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Audley Harrison would give Ali an epic battle
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Audley Harrison would give Ali an epic battle
Much better than Richard Dunn gave him and that's 4 sure .
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:04 AM   #28
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Only one that I'd actually favor- Joe Frazier.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:15 AM   #29
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Joe Frazier and Evander Holyfield
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:37 AM   #30
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I cant see Ali lasting more than halfway against Tyson Fury
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