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Old 11-11-2011, 11:37 AM   #31
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Much better than Richard Dunn gave him and that's 4 sure .
That's debatable. Dunn came to fight. The jury would be out on whether Audley would.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:42 AM   #32
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Valuev , Vitali , Wladimir , Bowe , Lewis , Foreman , Akinwande , Tyson .
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:43 AM   #33
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Not a damn one.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:47 AM   #34
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That's debatable. Dunn came to fight. The jury would be out on whether Audley would.
Did Ali come 2 fight vs Liston in their 1st fight ?
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:05 PM   #35
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:06 PM   #36
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I don't think that anybody is much better than 50/50 against him.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:14 PM   #37
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:27 PM   #38
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Did Ali come 2 fight vs Liston in their 1st fight ?
Well....as he won,one would have to say yes,Frankenfurter.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:29 PM   #39
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There's none that I'd favor.
Nor I.. If we were to assemble a tournament of lets say 30 of the very best heavyweights of the past 115 years, there's a possibilty he might drop a loss to one or two of them for stylistic reasons, but when it comes to favoring anyone, I just don't think I can.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:35 PM   #40
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Well....as he won,one would have to say yes,Frankenfurter.
So 1 would have had 2 say yes 2 Harrisson's chances vs Ali . And I mean prime Harrisson , not d1who fought Haye
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:50 PM   #41
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So 1 would have had 2 say yes 2 Harrisson's chances vs Ali . And I mean prime Harrisson , not d1who fought Haye
I'm going to be serious for a moment,Frank. Harrison annoyed me intensely. Like many,I was so hopeful after the Sydney Olympics. So much potential,but it all came to nothing.
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:07 PM   #43
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Orlin Norris fighting Tucker*2 , Akinwande & Vitali =
Walker Smith fighting Michael Spinks*2 , Evander Holyfield & Guillermo Jones (CW version) .
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Only Young who had the right style.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:48 PM   #45
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Just superior , without version of Ali .
I meant it 4 Lewis , Akinwande & d Klitschkos , not superior in every aspect but more formidable opponents 4 sure .
Valuev would not have needed 2 cheat vs Cooper & Terrell and would not have needed judges' help with Norton , Chuvalo & Doug Jones .
I also don't c him having 2 much problems with Frazier whom he would have carried unless Frazier hurts his belly 2 much and then taken out .
Valuev would not have had problems with Ali more than Ali would have had with him .
Valuev just needs to cheat against 45 year ol Holyfield
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