I Told you So! Pacquiao's Training Approach was WRONG for this Fight!

AxlRose · 11-11-2011, 08:30 AM

Here is why JMM wins, if he wins.

1. Pac was clearly hitting JMM in his previous two fights. This aside from the Knock Downs!

2. But JMM could take Pacquiao's punches, he is not getting cowed! He punches back and can win a point-system match, but cannot KD Pac.

3. Now that Pacquiao trains for this third fight, he focuses on speed----- wrong move!

4. He should have focused more on power, like the one that faced Mosley because he hits Marquez anyway! And if those power punches against Mosley connect (and they will) it will obliterate Marquez.....

5. So Pacquiao training for speed was a wrong tactic as this does not give him any advantage at all.

Your Thoughts?

MrMagic · 11-11-2011, 08:31 AM

Seems to me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

sunnn · 11-11-2011, 08:34 AM

pac's power is enough to kd cotto, mosley. speed is important if he gets into back forth with jmm, if jmm;s chinn holds up, as jmm is a good counter puncher.

AxlRose · 11-11-2011, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Seems to me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

This is hypothetical after watching both fights the 17th time last night before putting my bet.

It's just for fun, but it makes pure boxing sense..... if Marquez wins

dannylatics · 11-11-2011, 08:36 AM

Increased speed doesn't directly increase power, but due to the increase in speed the punches should have more of a "stun" effect

Pac UD. cant see it anyother way unless Pac stops him late

AxlRose · 11-11-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dannylatics

Increased speed doesn't directly increase power, but due to the increase in speed the punches should have more of a "stun" effect

Pac UD. cant see it anyother way unless Pac stops him late

Correct Dannylicious!

Plus the added muscle mass of JMM translates to a higher threshold to receive punches and pain

Convicted_Felon · 11-11-2011, 08:44 AM

Mr. 'I'm afraid of needles' got a meteoROID tat on his arm. LMAO! Go figure.

sunnn · 11-11-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Convicted_Felon

Mr. 'I'm afraid of needles' got a meteoROID tat on his arm. LMAO! Go figure.

24hrs.

aliens are afraid of 24hrs, when the moon is full and the sun shines the brightest.

24hrs.

Primenal · 11-11-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AxlRose

Correct Dannylicious!

Plus the added muscle mass of JMM translates to a higher threshold to receive punches and pain

Possibly, but your forgetting when they fought before they were about the same size. Pac put on useful muscle over the years, and JMM... judging by the Mayweather fight didn't do it right. He looks good now, but Pac is going to be more comfortable at that weight.
The reason Pac obliterates his opponents is SPEED. I'm sure the dude hits hard, but every opponent you hear the same thing...I couldn't see his punches.
Also, to say he worked on speed solely... I don't know if you seen Pac lately, but dude looks like a pitbull! I know JMM has gotten big, but Pac's arms, upper body looks better than it ever did in his entire career, and his legs actually look BIGGER than his last fight.
The extra weight might keep JMM on his feet for a little longer, but I'm willing to bet those big arms slow his counter punching down, and without landing some huge counters on Pac this will be a massacre.

sdsfinest22 · 11-11-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sunnn

pac's power is enough to kd cotto, mosley. speed is important if he gets into back forth with jmm, if jmm;s chinn holds up, as jmm is a good counter puncher.

last I checked he went the distance with Shane...ANYBODY CAN "HAVE THE POWER" BUT NOT ANYBODY CAN APPLY IT.

UR FAULT

igor_otsky · 11-11-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sdsfinest22

last I checked he went the distance with Shane...ANYBODY CAN "HAVE THE POWER" BUT NOT ANYBODY CAN APPLY IT.

UR FAULT

Nobody mentioned Pac KOED Mosley this, Cotto that. And you can have the power in the world but you may not KO your opponent.

REEVO · 11-11-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AxlRose

Here is why JMM wins, if he wins.

1. Pac was clearly hitting JMM in his previous two fights. This aside from the Knock Downs!

2. But JMM could take Pacquiao's punches, he is not getting cowed! He punches back and can win a point-system match, but cannot KD Pac.

3. Now that Pacquiao trains for this third fight, he focuses on speed----- wrong move!

4. He should have focused more on power, like the one that faced Mosley because he hits Marquez anyway! And if those power punches against Mosley connect (and they will) it will obliterate Marquez.....

5. So Pacquiao training for speed was a wrong tactic as this does not give him any advantage at all.

Your Thoughts?

Your talking shit mate........... No really you are.. Roach is saying Pac is hitting harder than ever and this one is going to be a early night. I dont take the words of Freddy Roach as gospel but i think Pac wants to make a statement....
pretty much everything you wrote is dribble and doesnt make sense..

JunitoJab · 11-11-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Seems to me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

So True

dannyboy147 · 11-11-2011, 10:05 AM

Lets not all get caught up in the Hype again and start believing programmes like HBO 24/7. Pacman is the PFP number 1 in the world who is a fully fledged welter weight. He has taken apart a 150lb Margarito and dismantled Miguel Cotto. He is probably the fastest fighter in the world and one of the PFP hardest punchers in boxing today.

JMM is a lightweight, i don't care how big his arms are. He is older, slower, and out of his depth against Pacquiao. Yes he can counterpunch and is a solid technician but at the catchweight of 144lbs this fight is a joke.

When Floyd made him move up he made a mockery out of himself, 18 month layoff or not. Pacquiao making him move up nearly 2 divisions is also a joke.

JMM will be destroyed and his face will be a bloody mess when this fight ends. Pacquiao will claim to have settled the score by silencing critics that thought JMM won the first 2 fights, this fight should have happened 2 years ago.

Leon · 11-11-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMagic

Seems to me you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

he doesn't ever know what he's talking about. he just an ugly troll tryna find a home between emmanuel's dumpling sack

11-11-2011, 08:30 AM	#1
AxlRose Up Yours! ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,638 vCash: 500	I Told you So! Pacquiao's Training Approach was WRONG for this Fight! Here is why JMM wins, if he wins. 1. Pac was clearly hitting JMM in his previous two fights. This aside from the Knock Downs! 2. But JMM could take Pacquiao's punches, he is not getting cowed! He punches back and can win a point-system match, but cannot KD Pac. 3. Now that Pacquiao trains for this third fight, he focuses on speed----- wrong move! 4. He should have focused more on power, like the one that faced Mosley because he hits Marquez anyway! And if those power punches against Mosley connect (and they will) it will obliterate Marquez..... 5. So Pacquiao training for speed was a wrong tactic as this does not give him any advantage at all. Your Thoughts? Last edited by AxlRose; 11-13-2011 at 05:58 AM.
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dannyboy147 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Aberdeen,Sunny Scotland Posts: 1,337 vCash: 75	Re: Why Pac Trained Wrongly for this Fight and Why JMM will Win! Lets not all get caught up in the Hype again and start believing programmes like HBO 24/7. Pacman is the PFP number 1 in the world who is a fully fledged welter weight. He has taken apart a 150lb Margarito and dismantled Miguel Cotto. He is probably the fastest fighter in the world and one of the PFP hardest punchers in boxing today. JMM is a lightweight, i don't care how big his arms are. He is older, slower, and out of his depth against Pacquiao. Yes he can counterpunch and is a solid technician but at the catchweight of 144lbs this fight is a joke. When Floyd made him move up he made a mockery out of himself, 18 month layoff or not. Pacquiao making him move up nearly 2 divisions is also a joke. JMM will be destroyed and his face will be a bloody mess when this fight ends. Pacquiao will claim to have settled the score by silencing critics that thought JMM won the first 2 fights, this fight should have happened 2 years ago.
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