I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules....

CocoonOfHorror! · 11-11-2011, 01:49 PM

Don't laugh at me too much, okay?

I got into a discussion with a buddy of mine about punches that land on the chest whether they were on purpose or not. Are those legal? If they aren't then are they scoring punches? Is there any rule on that? Do they count like body shots or if they do it so it's obvious is it something you can get called for? It's weird I never really thought of it much. I guess because of the heart it shouldn't be legal?

I don't know! I feel so dumb

I been watching fights forever!

CocoonOfHorror! · 11-11-2011, 02:09 PM

Nobody?

frankenfrank · 11-11-2011, 02:28 PM

I suppose hitting d chest is legal just because I didn't hear/read otherwise .
I remember Foreman saying Holyfield was/is smart 4 hitting d chest and I read that d referee fucked Charles in his 3rd fight vs Cream by not allowing him 2 hit Cream's collarbone .

hhascup · 11-11-2011, 02:43 PM

There legal as the chest is part of the body.

frankenfrank · 11-11-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hhascup

There legal as the chest is part of the body.

so r d kidneys , d back n d balls .

DeadlyOverhand · 11-11-2011, 03:00 PM

Solar Plexus I don't know if you'll consider this as chest but its darn close and learend in every gym.

Sayers · 11-11-2011, 03:05 PM

Legal and useful. Jab to the chest is useful to find the range or offbalance the opponent.

DonBoxer · 11-11-2011, 03:07 PM

Its legal and if used correctly is very effective.

The Mongoose · 11-11-2011, 03:11 PM

Holyfield jabbed Lewis' chest effectively in the rematch during the first half of the fight.

Adamek for a period was also doing this very well at CW.

Abdullah · 11-11-2011, 03:13 PM

Definitely legal.

Boxed Ears · 11-11-2011, 03:23 PM

Jimmy Young used to target the heart specifically, he was such a vicious beast, only looking to stop you any way he could. You know the Rocky character Ivan Drago? Remember his line "If he dies, he dies."? That was inspired by Jimmy Young, who was asked specifically about his well-timed heart punches.

"I'm there to take hearts. If he dies, he dies."

~Jimmy Young, shortly before brutally destroying Ken Norton in a 15-round split decision loss TKO victory that he was robbed of, because corrupt judges don't count victories that you lose or knockouts where the guy isn't hurt.

CocoonOfHorror! · 11-14-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadlyOverhand

Solar Plexus I don't know if you'll consider this as chest but its darn close and learend in every gym.

I thought the solar plexus was right under the chest in the middle above the abs? Still it seems it's legal from what everybody's saying. So I guess you couont it as a scoring body shot?

CocoonOfHorror! · 11-14-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Jimmy Young used to target the heart specifically, he was such a vicious beast, only looking to stop you any way he could. You know the Rocky character Ivan Drago? Remember his line "If he dies, he dies."? That was inspired by Jimmy Young, who was asked specifically about his well-timed heart punches.

"I'm there to take hearts. If he dies, he dies."

~Jimmy Young, shortly before brutally destroying Ken Norton in a 15-round split decision loss TKO victory that he was robbed of, because corrupt judges don't count victories that you lose or knockouts where the guy isn't hurt.

NO! That can't be right!

PowerPuncher · 11-14-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Jimmy Young used to target the heart specifically, he was such a vicious beast, only looking to stop you any way he could. You know the Rocky character Ivan Drago? Remember his line "If he dies, he dies."? That was inspired by Jimmy Young, who was asked specifically about his well-timed heart punches.

"I'm there to take hearts. If he dies, he dies."

~Jimmy Young, shortly before brutally destroying Ken Norton in a 15-round split decision loss TKO victory that he was robbed of, because corrupt judges don't count victories that you lose or knockouts where the guy isn't hurt.

Jimmy Young UDs Joe Louis brah

DonBoxer · 11-14-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CocoonOfHorror!

NO! That can't be right!

Are you questioning the reliability of BE as a source?

How very dare you?

11-11-2011, 01:49 PM	#1
CocoonOfHorror! LONG-TIME LURKER! ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 198 vCash: 2043	I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Don't laugh at me too much, okay? I got into a discussion with a buddy of mine about punches that land on the chest whether they were on purpose or not. Are those legal? If they aren't then are they scoring punches? Is there any rule on that? Do they count like body shots or if they do it so it's obvious is it something you can get called for? It's weird I never really thought of it much. I guess because of the heart it shouldn't be legal? I don't know! I feel so dumb I been watching fights forever!
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11-11-2011, 02:09 PM	#2
CocoonOfHorror! LONG-TIME LURKER! ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 198 vCash: 2043	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Nobody?
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frankenfrank Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,959 vCash: 4470	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... I suppose hitting d chest is legal just because I didn't hear/read otherwise . I remember Foreman saying Holyfield was/is smart 4 hitting d chest and I read that d referee fucked Charles in his 3rd fight vs Cream by not allowing him 2 hit Cream's collarbone .
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hhascup Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lodi, N.J. Posts: 2,320 vCash: 1000	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... There legal as the chest is part of the body.
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DeadlyOverhand Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 552 vCash: 500	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Solar Plexus I don't know if you'll consider this as chest but its darn close and learend in every gym.
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Sayers Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Liverpool Posts: 129 vCash: 500	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Legal and useful. Jab to the chest is useful to find the range or offbalance the opponent.
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DonBoxer The Lion! East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In Vitalis cut. Posts: 5,489 vCash: 75	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Its legal and if used correctly is very effective.
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The Mongoose THROW SOME THUNDAAAH!!!! East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Washington D.C. Posts: 5,273 vCash: 75	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Holyfield jabbed Lewis' chest effectively in the rematch during the first half of the fight. Adamek for a period was also doing this very well at CW.
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Abdullah Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 4,061 vCash: 500	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Definitely legal.
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Boxed Ears Lowering Post Count East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brunoilia, Hehsland Posts: 51,282 vCash: 7500	Re: I got maybe a stupid question but it's about the official rules.... Jimmy Young used to target the heart specifically, he was such a vicious beast, only looking to stop you any way he could. You know the Rocky character Ivan Drago? Remember his line "If he dies, he dies."? That was inspired by Jimmy Young, who was asked specifically about his well-timed heart punches. "I'm there to take hearts. If he dies, he dies." ~Jimmy Young, shortly before brutally destroying Ken Norton in a 15-round split decision loss TKO victory that he was robbed of, because corrupt judges don't count victories that you lose or knockouts where the guy isn't hurt.
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