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Old 11-12-2011, 04:04 PM   #16
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Whoa, Bert. It was a joke.

Given no footage of Greb, it's just to difficult to make a case either way for me.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:14 PM   #17
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Burt; no offense, I know you've seen a lot in your time and all and we all love the eras you've seen, but I think this kind of thing may be why a few here have issues with you at times. You can get a bit imperious here and there. Try to lighten up a bit, will ya? The guy was obviously having a joke.
To defend things that I hold to be true, is being "imperious", well I'll wear that mantle proudly...To call the past CRAP, was not meant as a joke in my opinion, but a crude and wrong attempt to demean great fighters of the past. Why should I let such a false disparaging remark go unchallenged ?
Yours truly,Imperious Burt...
P.S. I came from an era that was a helluva lot tougher than today's era of "anything goes",and I defend what i HONESTLY think is true S...Cheers.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:17 PM   #18
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To defend things that I hold to be true, is being "imperious", well I'll wear that mantle proudly...To call the past CRAP, was not meant as a joke in my opinion, but a crude and wrong attempt to demean great fighters of the past. Why should I let such a false disparaging remark go unchallenged ?
Yours truly,Imperious Burt...
P.S. I came from an era that was a helluva lot tougher than today's era of "anything goes",and I defend what i HONESTLY think is true S...Cheers.

Ehhhmmmm......the man just said it was a joke. The guy who wrote it himself(?)

Whatever. Every forum needs one of you. Stay tough.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:31 PM   #19
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Given no footage of Greb, it's just to difficult to make a case either way for me.
I am not unsympathetic to tht viewpoint but...........

Grebs record suggests that he could probably beat anybody south of 200lbs on a given day.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:33 PM   #20
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Ehhhmmmm......the man just said it was a joke. The guy who wrote it himself(?)

Whatever. Every forum needs one of you. Stay tough.
S, Seamus himnself did not say it was a "joke" on the word CRAP of Greb's era and after. Haven't seen it,and no need for that mia culpa. He was wrong and history bears me out.
P.S.Gene Tunney did NOT beat the fading Harry Greb the last 4 fights they met. All DISPUTED decisions. And Greb was a shot fighter ,with ALMOST three hundred bouts, and ONE EYE in their last bout. I wonder how Carlos Monzon would have fared against the great LH Gene Tunney, if Monzon had TWO HUNDRED more bouts under his belt, and ONE eye to boot, against
one of the greatest Light Heavyweights Gene Tunney ?
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:37 PM   #21
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**** it. Greb goes down like a Sunday hooker. Monzon in 7. Darren Van Horn would have ruled that era like Stalin.

Happy now?
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:46 PM   #22
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S, Seamus himnself did not say it was a "joke" on the word CRAP of Greb's era and after. Haven't seen it,and no need for that mia culpa. He was wrong and history bears me out.
P.S.Gene Tunney did NOT beat the fading Harry Greb the last 4 fights they met. All DISPUTED decisions. And Greb was a shot fighter ,with ALMOST three hundred bouts, and ONE EYE in their last bout. I wonder how Carlos Monzon would have fared against the great LH Gene Tunney, if Monzon had TWO HUNDRED more bouts under his belt, and ONE eye to boot, against
one of the greatest Light Heavyweights Gene Tunney ?
Burt , in the past I've defended you against some uncalled for criticism.In this case, it was clearly meant as a joke. Let it go.
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:52 PM   #23
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Whoa, Bert. It was a joke.

Given no footage of Greb, it's just to difficult to make a case either way for me.
Just saw this post of yours. Accepted !
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Old 11-12-2011, 04:54 PM   #24
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Burt , in the past I've defended you against some uncalled for criticism.In this case, it was clearly meant as a joke. Let it go.
I certainly have Mc.
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**** it. Greb goes down like a Sunday hooker. Monzon in 7. Darren Van Horn would have ruled that era like Stalin.

Happy now?
I you implying now that Darren Van Horn was horny ?
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:02 PM   #26
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Athletes were crap in those days. Monzon by wide UD.
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Athletes were crap in those days.
Explain please?

Then if you can do that, explain how it might be relevant to boxing.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:36 PM   #28
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I read Greb throws 2000 punches per round, Monzon won't keep up with that activity.

Nah but, in all seriousness it would be crazy to predict this.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:43 PM   #29
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Greb.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:03 PM   #30
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Carlos never seen a day he could out fight Greb, Greb beat better men and bigger men Greb by UD maybe tko.
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