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Old 11-14-2011, 01:10 AM   #76
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Monzon way too big and sharp punching for the smaller and wide punching Greb who applied pressure and ate punches, too......... Monzon too tall and skilled..... Greb hates what he see's in Monzon.....

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Old 11-14-2011, 01:15 AM   #77
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Athletes were crap in those days. Monzon by wide UD.
horseshit..Jeffries used to run 10 miles with a 400lbs deer on his back
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:20 AM   #78
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horseshit..Jeffries used to run 10 miles with a 400lbs deer on his back

dude's like Jeff, Johnson, Gans and Tommy Sharkey were of a different ship........ They were the goods....

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Old 11-14-2011, 09:28 AM   #79
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horseshit..Jeffries used to run 10 miles with a 400lbs deer on his back
Big deal ! I carried my ex wife on ny back for over 20 years....
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:05 PM   #80
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Big deal ! I carried my ex wife on my back for over 20 years....
Yeah Burt, but did you ever enter one of these races, and win your
ex wife's weight in beer? (This should be broadcast live on ESPN, in
prime time, if it's not already.)

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKWxfTk573o[/ame]
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:09 PM   #81
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D,these guys in the race carried their thin wives. Easily done.
My ex wife was so big, she had her own zip-code.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:07 PM   #82
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I love Monzon but I think Greb out-hustles him to win the UD
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:22 PM   #83
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Looks to me like from 1924-26 Greg fought well over 25 fights at over 160 pounds and about 5 at 160 or under. That's just the ones we have weights on. And most of those were over 165 pounds, many in the 170s. So he was able to make middleweight, in his prime he mostly boxed at what we'd call super middle or light heavy.

Heck he won the middleweight title against a guy who weighed 152. Walker was essentially a welterweight who'd had a big breakfast.

My point is that we can extrapolate from Greb's record that he was clearly capable of losing to Monzon, and to guys who accomplished much less -- even a ham-n-egger with precious little experience.

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Old 11-14-2011, 09:26 PM   #84
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u have Harry winning the title from Walker!!
and cite the Jameson fluke encounter as an example of his fighting abilities
Im beginning to think your Quarry!!
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:44 PM   #85
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D,these guys in the race carried their thin wives. Easily done.
My ex wife was so big, she had her own zip-code.

...You're on a roll burt...
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Looks to me like from 1924-26 Greg fought well over 25 fights at over 160 pounds and about 5 at 160 or under. That's just the ones we have weights on. And most of those were over 165 pounds, many in the 170s. So he was able to make middleweight, in his prime he mostly boxed at what we'd call super middle or light heavy.

Heck he won the middleweight title against a guy who weighed 152. Walker was essentially a welterweight who'd had a big breakfast.

My point is that we can extrapolate from Greb's record that he was clearly capable of losing to Monzon, and to guys who accomplished much less -- even a ham-n-egger with precious little experience.
Walker had beaten the LHW champ before he fought Greb, and would go on to be a ranked Heavy for years.

And Greb won the title from Wilson, not Walker. I'm starting to think you're using Boxrec to form your arguments.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:37 AM   #87
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Walker had beaten the LHW champ before he fought Greb, and would go on to be a ranked Heavy for years.

And Greb won the title from Wilson, not Walker. I'm starting to think you're using Boxrec to form your arguments.
Flea Man, how many times have I said it's boxWRECK dammit! (Okay, not lately, but still, they record clean knockouts as TKOs, TKOs as clean knockouts, and they still list the height of early 1980s fringe contender James "Hard Rock" Green as 5'11" when he was a 5'4" JMW, etc, etc...)
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D,these guys in the race carried their thin wives. Easily done.
My ex wife was so big, she had her own zip-code.
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