Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-14-2011, 01:17 AM   #31
samita
El Temible
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 991
vCash: 75
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

I think the TS point is Marquez cried robbery and begged for rematches twice. Marquez believed he was wronged by the judges twice. He learned from both encounters that judges gave close rounds to the aggressor. So why do the same shit AGAIN knowing it didn't work out in the last two encounters

Shame on him getting fooled 3 times.
samita is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 11-14-2011, 01:20 AM   #32
samita
El Temible
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 991
vCash: 75
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

And it's not like we talking about a feather fisted or a one dimensional fighter here, Marquez demonstrated plenty of times tremendous offensive abilities and lethal combination punching. So if he knew he got robbed twice for not pressing the fight, what made him think this time would be any different.
samita is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 02:18 AM   #33
agila2004a
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Philippines
Posts: 818
vCash: 1000
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by prelude View Post
When you want a fight that bad you shouldn't leave it to SHOULDA. You need to convince that you really want to win this thing...win or lose. Marquez said he was willing to die in the ring but it didn't seems like that last night.
since you said willing to die, margo was willing in his fight with pac. one of jmm strategy is to avoid a kd at all costs if i remember from one of nacho's interview.
agila2004a is online now  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 02:57 AM   #34
prelude
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,897
vCash: 500
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by agila2004a View Post
since you said willing to die, margo was willing in his fight with pac. one of jmm strategy is to avoid a kd at all costs if i remember from one of nacho's interview.
True but he shouldn't cry robbery if he doesn't get the nod for trying to be cautious all night. It's no secret that he got the better of the exchange when he contered PAC but PAC is the one who pressed the attack. Not all judges like cautious fighter, it makes them look like they don't really want to fight. Marquez left it to the judges to decide and it's his own fault. Especially after asking for the fight for years and just fighting like that.
prelude is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 03:32 AM   #35
Fan88
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Caguas, PR
Posts: 1,365
vCash: 1000
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

He was afraid of being knocked down, even once, which would have resulted in a close but clear Pac win had it happened.


He should have learned by now that volume is favored over counterpunching by judges.
Fan88 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 03:40 AM   #36
Popshots
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 729
vCash: 1000
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by prelude View Post
Attack more and pressed more forward in this fight. I mean he's been wanting this fight for years and when given the chance all he does is back peddle and counter. He did a great job of countering PAC though, he got the better of the exchange. But the point here is when you want a fight this bad you go in there to win the fight without leaving it to the judge to decide.
Have you watch any of the fights. Marquez didn't want to get knocked down. Obviously 1 knockdown was the deciding factor in the 2nd fight. He just doesn't have the power to knock PAC out even if he did go for it.
Popshots is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 06:06 AM   #37
meloy
Journeyman
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 70
vCash: 500
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Marquez has really no one else to blame but himself. He didn't come to fight. If Marquez really wanted to win he should have brought the fight to Pacquiao not the other way around. Pacquiao was chasing him all night. Marquez is afraid to engage Pacquiao and was fighting too cautious.

Marquez should knock the champ, not survive the champ.
meloy is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 06:12 AM   #38
hooligan
Millionaire Bum
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: your daughter's bedroom
Posts: 1,906
vCash: 1077
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

jmm said before the fight, he will leave it all in the ring...

i dont think he did that...he didnt take too much risk...he only wins via KO...but he is not that great a fighter as some would think...

i bet you if the roles are reversed and jmm is coming forward...pac's gonna ko jmm....
hooligan is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 06:13 AM   #39
bahobilat
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 369
vCash: 500
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

as i sports fan, i always favor aggression, same with other sports.

if some of you idiots here have watched other sports like tae kwan do, or judo in case of tie, matches are awarded to the more aggressive fighter as he takes on more risk.

higher risk=higher reward. counter punchers take the low risk approach and are therefore lesser rewarded.

simple fact of life.
bahobilat is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 09:58 AM   #40
prelude
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,897
vCash: 500
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by hooligan View Post
jmm said before the fight, he will leave it all in the ring...

i dont think he did that...he didnt take too much risk...he only wins via KO...but he is not that great a fighter as some would think...

i bet you if the roles are reversed and jmm is coming forward...pac's gonna ko jmm....
You never know because Marquez could hurt PAC also. The point is he has to take that chance also and he didn't. He just fought to survive and hope that he out pointed PAC to a victory which the judges saw otherwise along with many fans. Sure you can make a case for him to win but you can also make a case for Pacquiao to win also...the point is PAC showed more that he wanted the win.
prelude is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2011, 10:15 AM   #41
SRCP
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 765
vCash: 1000
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

I only saw rounds 5 to 12. JMM started most of the exchanges and won them.
SRCP is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2014, 02:46 PM   #42
bballchump11
2011 Poster of the Year
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: GA
Posts: 30,334
vCash: 400
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by prelude View Post
Attack more and pressed more forward in this fight. I mean he's been wanting this fight for years and when given the chance all he does is back peddle and counter. He did a great job of countering PAC though, he got the better of the exchange. But the point here is when you want a fight this bad you go in there to win the fight without leaving it to the judge to decide.
well that's what he did the 4th time you faggot motherflucker

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
bballchump11 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2014, 05:57 PM   #43
ElCyclon
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,058
vCash: 500
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by bballchump11 View Post
well that's what he did the 4th time you faggot motherflucker
ElCyclon is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2014, 06:38 PM   #44
Sunchild78
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,418
vCash: 1000
Default Re: How come Marquez didn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by prelude View Post
Attack more and pressed more forward in this fight. I mean he's been wanting this fight for years and when given the chance all he does is back peddle and counter. He did a great job of countering PAC though, he got the better of the exchange. But the point here is when you want a fight this bad you go in there to win the fight without leaving it to the judge to decide.
Well I would say it has something to do with respecting what Pacquiao has done and what he's capable of doing.. Marquez is a smart fighter and knew he could not beat Pac at his own game, so why fight him that way? He fought him doing what he does better then Pac, and that's countering. Which paid off in the long run.
Sunchild78 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013