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Old 11-14-2011, 01:37 PM   #16
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yeah, they shouldve put him in the ring with guys who only punch, no leg kicks or wrestling and than after some wins put him in the ring with brock, not that he wouldve had a big chance of winning but only the billboard alone

Brock Lesnar vs Kimbo Slice

would have generated good ppv numbers
Brock Lesnar vs Kurt Angle would have generated even more numbers. Where does it end? Is the UFC just going to be a popularity contest?
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:50 PM   #17
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A boxing promoter would keep Kimbo and con the fans. Thankfully the UFC don't employ as much bullshit tactics as boxing promoters and they get rid of the likes of Kimbo and maintain the sports credibility.



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Old 11-14-2011, 02:59 PM   #18
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They should keep strikeforce around for all the guys who are exciting but limited and just put them in quality match ups. Pure entertainment no real incentive to find out whos the best.
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:50 PM   #19
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uh huh, giving Lesnar a title shot with a 1-1 record is screams credibility
Didn't he win that title shot by stoppage, taking the belt from one of the unquestioned legends of MMA?

And didn't he then immediately avenge his pre-title loss via TKO?

And then come back after being hospitalized by an extended, ongoing, life-threatening illness to submit a top contender who was an undefeated wrecking machine?

Sounds like he was a credible title challenger to me.

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:52 PM   #20
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Didn't he win that title shot by stoppage, taking the belt from one of the unquestioned legends of MMA?

And didn't he then immediately avenge his pre-title loss via TKO?

And then come back after being hospitalized by an extended, ongoing, life-threatening illness to submit a top contender who was an undefeated wrecking machine?

Sounds like he was a credible title challenger to me.

look pal u can talk about his acclompishments, hospitals all u want:

giving a title shot to vince Mcmahons superstar with a 1-1 record IS NOT CREDIBLE...period
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:55 PM   #21
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look pal u can talk about his acclompishments, hospitals all u want:

giving a title shot to vince Mcmahons superstar with a 1-1 record IS NOT CREDIBLE...period
And then he won it, and successfully defended it. Brock's title reign was longer and more impressive than Cain's. And his resume is better than Cain's as well.

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Old 11-14-2011, 04:04 PM   #22
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And then he won it, and successfully defended it. Brock's title reign was longer and more impressive than Cain's. And his resume is better than Cain's as well.

did u not read what i just...... eh forget it

youre right, i totally see your point
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:10 PM   #23
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yea plus why let kimboooooooooooo go when dan hardy has 4 straight losses.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:13 PM   #24
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uh huh, giving Lesnar a title shot with a 1-1 record is screams credibility
That is why I said the UFC don't employ as much bullshit. They still do questionable things. However, if in boxing you were battering a former champ and then got ko'd and then beat a top 10 contender then a title shot would certainly not be out of the picture, especially if you were such a big sell.

There have been exceptions but 98% of the time the UFC work in a way the fans only wish boxing could.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:15 PM   #25
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They should keep strikeforce around for all the guys who are exciting but limited and just put them in quality match ups. Pure entertainment no real incentive to find out whos the best.
I agree. Guys like Gonzaga, Vera etc who they want to cut can fight in SF and still give us great fights and some of them will retain their form and warrant a call up to the UFC.

I also thought the UFC would use SF as a buffer org. A way of not monopolising anywhere but still stopping no org from reaching their size because if the UFC doesn't poach the competition then SF could.

For example SF could snap up Alvarez, Aoki, Lombard etc
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:16 PM   #26
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youre right, i totally see your point


That's all I expected from the start.

Seriously, at the time I did think it was a bit of a pisstake.

But it's not like the HW division is stacked now, and it was worse then. It's not like he leapfrogged a half-dozen guys to get the shot. Subsequent events have shown it was legitimate. Brock was an established name, and that got him a shot. But he was also a physical freak with very legitimate wrestling credentials and name recognition/fan interest was off the charts.

He won the title, then successfully defended against a very legitimate, dangerous, undefeated contender. For me, that makes his title shot legit in retrospect.

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Kimbo v Brock was a no brainer when they first were coming through, that would've set records or sure................. that ship has long sailed.

I agree with the UFC being a franchise WWE - That is the market they need to take because people understand the sport is really only a poormans boxing.

Not dissing the UFC but when you see blokes like Clay Guida on national TV u just shake your head in disbelief
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That's all I expected from the start.

Seriously, at the time I did think it was a bit of a pisstake.

But it's not like the HW division is stacked now, and it was worse then. It's not like he leapfrogged a half-dozen guys to get the shot. Subsequent events have shown it was legitimate. Brock was an established name, and that got him a shot. But he was also a physical freak with very legitimate wrestling credentials and name recognition/fan interest was off the charts.

He won the title, then successfully defended against a very legitimate, dangerous, undefeated contender. For me, that makes his title shot legit in retrospect.


woa woa woa.........



dude:


beat an Old herring, lost to Frank mir

some how that was enough for a world title shot

won against the most pathetic version of couture weve ever seen

avenged his loss against mir

beat carwin after getting brutally pummeled

got destroyed by Velasquez




nice try, you get a 9 out of 10 for self confidence and 10 out of 10 for deepthroating lesnars shaft thats tattoed on his chest..
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Old 11-14-2011, 05:01 PM   #29
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woa woa woa.........



dude:


beat an Old herring, lost to Frank mir

some how that was enough for a world title shot

won against the most pathetic version of couture weve ever seen

avenged his loss against mir

beat carwin after getting brutally pummeled

got destroyed by Velasquez




nice try, you get a 9 out of 10 for self confidence and 10 out of 10 for deepthroating lesnars shaft thats tattoed on his chest..

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Old 11-14-2011, 05:22 PM   #30
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woa woa woa.........



dude:


beat an Old herring, lost to Frank mir

some how that was enough for a world title shot

won against the most pathetic version of couture weve ever seen

avenged his loss against mir

beat carwin after getting brutally pummeled

got destroyed by Velasquez




nice try, you get a 9 out of 10 for self confidence and 10 out of 10 for deepthroating lesnars shaft thats tattoed on his chest..
I said I thought him getting his initial title shot was a bit of a pisstake. Personally I would have made him take one or two more fights. But he's been thrown in at the deep end, and he's done fine. And who else really deserved the shot but missed out because of Brock?

Personally I would have stopped the Carwin fight when Brock was on his back, though he was always conscious and was defending himself, however feebly. But he rallied and ended up with an impressive win, which became more impressive as the truth emerged of just how sick he was for the year before the fight.

And I'm not a Brock nuthugger. I like the guy and think the HW division is better with a healthy and motivated Brock in it, but I'm a long way short of a nuthugger. I just think he cops a lot of flak that isn't deserved.

Besides, who really puts the hard yards in? I didn't hear too many people criticizing Cain's title shot. He had a win over old Nog and a win over Kongo. Then he took the belt off a champion who was suffering serious health issues, then he got splattered by one punch in his first defence, and had a title reign lasting sixty seconds. Maybe Cain isn't legit either hey?

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