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Old 11-14-2011, 11:04 AM   #16
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The reaction has been extreme, but JMM won the fight on my scorecard. Truth be told, I didn't really want him to win because I'd be all butthurt about him doing what MAB couldn't, but it is what it is. He won the fight. This isn't the first time it's happened to him. ****, I feel for the guy.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:04 AM   #17
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Absolutely.

I said a number of times its because of the extremely high standards Pac has set, and expectations were very high, so any good shots Marquez landed were magnified. The very fact that it was a close fight is seen as a loss for Manny, particularly from joyboys.

i'd agree with this.

mixed in with the fact he didnt get the decision in the 1st 2 meet ups.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:06 AM   #18
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I think a lot of the punches that was counted as landed for Manny didn't actually land. Watching the fight, JMM made Manny miss A LOT. And when he missed, JMM would come back with combinations to the body. He was landing his left hook to the body at will as well. As soon as the first scorecard was read and annouced a Draw, I knew something fishy was gonna go down. Poor JMM. He was robbed blind. All that hardwork put in, including out fighting Manny in the ring, and he gets the W taken away from him.

manny was landing the counter right hook very well.

Also the straight left.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:07 AM   #19
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Lara - Williams is certainly up there, but not as high profile.

Ali - Norton, Agbeko - Mares, Lewis - Klitchko all come to mind.

But this one bugs me personally like no other in history. It really changes everything, even my opinion of Lamply & Lederman, whom I used to respect.
Lets not forget Lederman was a judge in the 3rd Ali-Norton fight. I get what you're saying though, I usually agree with him, but couldn't disagree more here.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:07 AM   #20
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If you're claiming that Marquez landed all night, and Manny missed all night, then why do both guys look the way they do? For all of Manny's missed winging punches, he was remarkably consistent in puffing up both eyes and adding a blood mouse.
Yeah, them headbutts are a mother****er.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:08 AM   #21
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manny was landing the counter right hook very well.

Also the straight left.
Who controlled the distance, tempo and shape of the fight? Marquez
Who landed the most clean punches? Marquez
Who was technically superior? Marquez
Who landed the most body punches? Marquez
Who landed the most jabs? Marquez
Who landed the most counterpunches? Marquez


Marquez, Marquez, Marquez!! VIVA MEXICO!
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:09 AM   #22
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Yeah, them headbutts are a mother****er.
Don't be a moron. Marquez's headbutt opened up the cut on Pac's eye.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:09 AM   #23
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manny was landing the counter right hook very well.

Also the straight left.
pacquiao actually was more effective with the right hook this time than the 2nd fight which was completely neutralized by marquez.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:10 AM   #24
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Who controlled the distance, tempo and shape of the fight? Marquez
Who landed the most clean punches? Marquez
Who was technically superior? Marquez
Who landed the most body punches? Marquez
Who landed the most jabs? Marquez
Who landed the most counterpunches? Marquez


Marquez, Marquez, Marquez!! VIVA MEXICO!
Who clearly looked like he took a beating, coming away with a bruised and battered face? I mean, all those things you listed left behind no visual evidence.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:12 AM   #25
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Who clearly looked like he took a beating, coming away with a bruised and battered face? I mean, all those things you listed left behind no visual evidence.
Thats no indicator of how a boxing contest went you dummy. If that was the case Tomasz Adamek would lose every other fight he's ever been in, no?

You saw the fight with your own eyes, you fag.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:14 AM   #26
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Who controlled the distance, tempo and shape of the fight? Marquez
Who landed the most clean punches? Marquez
Who was technically superior? Marquez
Who landed the most body punches? Marquez
Who landed the most jabs?
Who landed the most counterpunches? Marquez


Marquez, Marquez, Marquez!! VIVA MEXICO!
Who landed the most punches - Manny
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:14 AM   #27
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People who scored it higher than 8-4 for Marquez are idiots and just basing it on the high expectations for Pacquiao.

"Hmmm, Pac couldn't dominate JMM like he was expected to so I gave Marquez 10 clear rounds."
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:16 AM   #28
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those who gave marquez "8 or 7 clear rounds" are giving marquez rounds because he was not dominated. the reality is that most of the rounds are close.
Yeah I agree. Initially I had Marquez winning by 2 rds but after rewatching it on DVR yesterday it was closer. Had Marquez let it all out in rds 11-12, I beleive he would have been justified in getting the nod ...

With that being said, it's time for Mr. Arum to put his differences with Floyd aside and get the deal done!
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:20 AM   #29
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It was a boring fight. I don't want a Pac vs Marq 4 unless Marquez can knock Pac out.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:20 AM   #30
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It was no close fight.
I'm a pactard, and I don't get how anyone can score this fight other than a clear victory for Marquez. I can't even find 5 rounds that I could give to Manny for the Hell of it, I gave him 3 rounds, and I felt that that was very generous.
Another thing I don't get is the compubox-stats.
If Pac landed more shots than JMM then I was watching another fight.
Its almost like a big conspiracy, I mean everybody in their right mind had to see that MP obviously got his ass kicked in there, yet I browse these forums and everybody is like "close fight, had MP up by two" etc. I don't get it.
If you want to know whats wrong with boxing, watch this fight, or watch Sturm - DLH.
I'm sick of this, and I don't think I will watch another fight soon.
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