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Old 11-17-2011, 07:22 PM   #16
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Dude pac lost , get over it
I think you need to face reality...
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:24 PM   #17
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LOL at this goon going through the whole fight picking out the closest rounds and trying to somehow make sense to not have Pacquiao losing.


What the **** are you doing, sifting through every round and trying to decide which round Marquez did'nt win as strongly so that you can somehow make a case for Pacquiao.

Thats not how you do it you biased fowl smelling Pactard.
You score the ****ing fight from round 1 and you did it in sequence round by round.

"I cant ****ing score round X for Pacquiao, so I'm going to sift through and rewatch a few rounds until I get a ****ing result that fits my agenda."

You're pathetic you piece of Caca!

I'm sorry, but this clown really upsets me. The guy actually knows something about the sport and regularly posts in the Classic section, but his raging hard on for Manny Pacquiao is so that he cant ****ing be impartial about the scoring of this fight and in this scenario he's giving us in this thread, is'nt even trying to hide the fact he's a Pactard with full blown irreversable "Pactadism."


You're not even trying to lie to yourself Popkins, you're Pactardism is so that you're exhibiting the symptoms of a sick boxing fan in denial.
Great post Divac you really came in and shattered Nancy's agenda driven scorecard.

"it was a close fight"

"I had it a draw"

"Round X was hard to score and when I got the suspicion I was about to give it too Marquez I suddenly stopped myself and scored it 10-10"

"Great fight I want to see the 4th one, there's nothing I enjoy more then seeing Marquez get ****ed over on the scorecards"




This is the type of bullshit you get when supposedly knowledgeable posters decide to bury their face in a fighters ballsack.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:25 PM   #18
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Great post Divac you really came in and shattered Nancy's agenda driven scorecard.

"it was a close fight"

"I had it a draw"

"Round X was hard to score and when I got the suspicion I was about to give it too Marquez I suddenly stopped myself and scored it 10-10"

"Great fight I want to see the 4th one, there's nothing I enjoy more then seeing Marquez get ****ed over on the scorecards"




This is the type of bullshit you get when supposedly knowledgeable posters decide to bury their face in a fighters ballsack.
You know you can suck dick anytime on my threads. You're a troll and I have no time for you. A boring little penis going round making baseless accusations. Yawn. General Forum tedium.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:26 PM   #19
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I hope you die of arse cancer you pathetic stinktard. Roast in hell, piss-ant.
Looks like Nancy is still on her period .
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:30 PM   #20
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You know you can suck dick anytime on my threads. You're a troll and I have no time for you. A boring little penis going round making baseless accusations. Yawn. General Forum tedium.
If you don't agree with Nancy's agenda driven bullshit you're a Troll
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:30 PM   #21
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If you don't agree with Nancy's agenda driven bullshit you're a Troll
You are one though. Everyone knows this.
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Give me a 4th fight any day of the week.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:32 PM   #23
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Looks like Nancy is still on her period .
I'm surprised the social worker is back on her high horse going round trying to regulate others' behaviour yet again, after lufcrazy came on to the thread the other day and seemed almost embarrassed by your bitch-like whining about me and him having a spat.

We fell in immediately, and you looked like an utter *****. By all means keep it up, General Forum social worker bleeding heart bitchlord!!
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You are one though. Everyone knows this.
Who's everyone? you and Manny's ballsack?
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:34 PM   #25
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Give me a 4th fight any day of the week.
Me too. I defy anyone to have a big gap between them after THIRTY-SIX ROUNDS!

A 4th fight would be great. I bet both guys would be more gung-ho next time as well, it'd be epic.
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Who's everyone? you and Manny's ballsack?
Yawn. Another couple of pages of this boring trolling then hopefully it'll be your bed-time and the rest of us can go back to talking about the fight.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:37 PM   #27
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Me too. I defy anyone to have a big gap between them after THIRTY-SIX ROUNDS!

A 4th fight would be great. I bet both guys would be more gung-ho next time as well, it'd be epic.
I have Pac winning about 12 out of those 36 rounds. How do you have it
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I'll start with two comments before I get down to trying to score these rounds accurately:


1 - Seriously, how can any real boxing fan say this wasn't a close fight???

2 - This fight really does underline how insanely difficult to score boxing is compared to other sports. There were a few rounds in there which mean I really cannot have a strong conviction over the verdict. In a three-minute round where both guys throw and land a similar amount of punches, sometimes it really does feel arbitrary just picking out one factor/moment in order to call the round. I don't understand how anyone can be so decisive over some fights when there are rounds like these.


Anyway, here goes, a tentative scorecard because some rounds were extremely, extremely close and highly open to interpretation (until the scoring system or the form of a boxing match changes, this will continue to happen):

ONE: Pacquiao 10-9 Marquez / Pac lands better punches, couple of good straight shots / CLOSE

TWO: Pacquiao 9-10 Marquez / CLOSE

THREE: Pacquiao 10-9 Marquez / Pac lands better shots down the stretch / CLOSE

FOUR: 10-10 / Pac is edging round until JMM lands good shots near end

FIVE: Pacquiao 9-10 Marquez / CLEAR (clearest round of the fight)

SIX: Pacquiao 10-9 Marquez / Pac outworks him / CLOSE

SEVEN: Pacquiao 9-10 Marquez / Pac lands a couple of quality shots near end, but overall a Marquez round / CLEAR

EIGHT: Pacquiao 9-10 Marquez / Edged by JMM landing the cleaner shots / CLOSE

NINE: Pacquiao 10-9 Marquez / Very tricky to score. JMM lands good combos, Pac outworks him, lands good shots near end / CLOSE

TEN: 10-10 / Very difficult to score

ELEVEN: 10-10 / JMM lands 2 best shots of the round, but Pac does more work. Round could be scored any way and it wouldn't be wrong / CLOSE

TWELVE: Pacquiao 10-9 Marquez / Another killer to score, but Pac is the only one who lands a decisive, significant punch to punctuate the fight / CLOSE


Number of close rounds: TEN out of TWELVE

Number of clear rounds: TWO out of TWELVE (5 ,7 - both to Marquez)


Final score: Pacquiao 115-115 Marquez



Some Further Comments


- The fact that Marquez won the two clearest rounds of the fight (5, 7) is one of the several key reasons why many were shouting "robbery" in the immediate aftermath

- One thing I noticed was that Marquez's punches were more eye-catching because when Pac landed he landed straight punches which were thrown from quite far back and so didn't land with full power, whereas Marquez landed shots he turned his body into and therefore looked more effective, but it was Pacquiao who landed more in more rounds I think

- The last 3 rounds could probably all have been scored either way, which is why I think people with extremely strong convictions over who won is silly. I've seen people saying Marquez was robbed and I've seen people saying Marquez cannot have won the fight - both are very wrong IMO




Final Note


My card for the 1st fight was 115-112 Pacquiao

My card for the 2nd fight was 114-114

My card for the 3rd fight was 115-115

Therefore, after 36 rounds I have a majority draw, of sorts.

Do I want to see a fourth fight?

Hell Yes is the answer!


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I agree with this analyze pretty much. JMM landing a few very good looking counters hardly makes up for Pac landing more, since it was decent shots we are talking about. The swelling around both of Marquez eyes suggests he was peppered throughout, not only tagged with a few good ones.

I can see why some people scored it for JMM, but in my opinion a rematch is what makes most sense.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:40 PM   #29
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You know you can suck dick anytime on my threads. You're a troll and I have no time for you. A boring little penis going round making baseless accusations. Yawn. General Forum tedium.
A few minutes later;


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I'm surprised the social worker is back on her high horse going round trying to regulate others' behaviour yet again, after lufcrazy came on to the thread the other day and seemed almost embarrassed by your bitch-like whining about me and him having a spat.

We fell in immediately, and you looked like an utter *****. By all means keep it up, General Forum social worker bleeding heart bitchlord!!

Nancy sure is confused

Lufc is a sound poster infact we had a short exchange on Leeds UTD's past glories and players ofcourse he's someone you can respect because even though you may not agree with everything he says he's not an overly serious pink vagina like you
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:43 PM   #30
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A few minutes later;





Nancy sure is confused

Lufc is a sound poster infact we had a short exchange on Leeds UTD's past glories and players ofcourse he's someone you can respect because even though you may not agree with everything he says he's not an overly serious pink vagina like you
Yawn. Hopefully only another couple of posts from this boring shit before he has to go to bed as it's a school night.
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