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Old 11-17-2011, 10:10 PM   #31
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I love the "yeah it's not Pacquiao sucking, it's just the style that will give him fits."

To which everyone's response should be: "well, whose fault is that?!?" Seriously, what kind of ATG and P4P champ doesn't ever fight mobile or counterpunching boxers and the few times he does, he gets beat.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:11 PM   #32
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Pac won deal with it

Paul Williams beat Lara, deal with that.
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:12 PM   #33
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Paul Williams beat Lara, deal with that.
We talking about Williams here or Pac? Wrong thread Nonito
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Old 11-17-2011, 10:54 PM   #34
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Fair enough, but I did like how Kellerman was clearly not following the HBO script when he kept repeatedly saying "I wouldn't be surprised if the judges had it closer.....or even the other way" after hearing Lederman updating his bullshit scorecard.
Kellerman was the only one who disagreed with the scoring at that time. Right now, Manny seems to be jobbing his commentating performances in just to make money.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:00 PM   #35
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Finally some honesty from the HBO parasites.

So if Marquez landed the cleaner more effective punches, and we can clearly see Marquez had the superior defense as even by the crooked compubox stats he landed with a greater %punch efficiency, and given that he was the superior ring general in every round and made Pac fight a fight he was not comfortable or very familiar with, how the hell did Marquez not get the decision?

117-111 Marquez
dont think so

video proves pac was more accurate and landed more cleaner shots

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYC2qTYfSHs[/ame]
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:01 PM   #36
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Finally some honesty from the HBO parasites.

So if Marquez landed the cleaner more effective punches, and we can clearly see Marquez had the superior defense as even by the crooked compubox stats he landed with a greater %punch efficiency, and given that he was the superior ring general in every round and made Pac fight a fight he was not comfortable or very familiar with, how the hell did Marquez not get the decision?

117-111 Marquez
I had it 117-111 Marquez too.

Watched it a few times now, HBO coverage was terrible and i saw ESPN first talk or whatever on youtube, embarrassing.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:46 PM   #37
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I also think Steward said Manny is one the best fighters of the era. We all know that's BS too.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:51 PM   #38
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I had it 117-111 Marquez too.

Watched it a few times now, HBO coverage was terrible and i saw ESPN first talk or whatever on youtube, embarrassing.
I have a feeling you had a bet on an early KO for Pac So how much did you lost?
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:58 PM   #39
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Steward is a disgrace for not speaking out during the fight what he actually thought.

Quoted for truth
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Old 11-19-2011, 01:18 AM   #40
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dont think so

video proves pac was more accurate and landed more cleaner shots

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I once saw a video that made it look like Shumenov clowned Campillo in their rematch.
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Old 11-19-2011, 01:22 AM   #41
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Finally some honesty from the HBO parasites.

So if Marquez landed the cleaner more effective punches, and we can clearly see Marquez had the superior defense as even by the crooked compubox stats he landed with a greater %punch efficiency, and given that he was the superior ring general in every round and made Pac fight a fight he was not comfortable or very familiar with, how the hell did Marquez not get the decision?

117-111 Marquez
marquez didnt have the superior defense since pac landed more shots
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:00 AM   #42
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Finally some honesty from the HBO parasites.

So if Marquez landed the cleaner more effective punches, and we can clearly see Marquez had the superior defense as even by the crooked compubox stats he landed with a greater %punch efficiency, and given that he was the superior ring general in every round and made Pac fight a fight he was not comfortable or very familiar with, how the hell did Marquez not get the decision?

117-111 Marquez
Pacquiao threw and landed more punches. And was the aggressor. In the history books it will say Pacquaio beat Marquez twice and to a draw. It will also say he knocked him down 5 times.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:04 AM   #43
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Judges don't score fights that way, never have and never will.
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Old 11-19-2011, 04:09 AM   #44
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A guy that is a win away from the Fight Of The Century ? U think you can let him outwork you, bust up your face, land at a higher percentage in power, throw more, make you miss more, back you up, then you land 5 punches in the 12th round and you feel robbed ?
Marquez was garbage. He fought safe and could not open up as he got tagged with more lefts and right hooks than power he threw. Manny is too mentally strong when the fight was in question Manny stepped on the gas and Marquez was in neutral.

Show me a robbery where the declared winner on 2 judges cards (zero gave it to JMM) was never hurt, landed more, finished stronger and was the come forward agressor.
You can't lose when u sweep those catogories.
If it was two no name fighters 95% of the time all 3 judges give it to Pac's style.

As a whole Pac stood in front of the counter puncher, backed him up while never being hurt, outworking and landing almost every round. That is a layup for Marquez and
he couldn't put anything together but a few here and there.
He knows deep down he ****ed up. The muscle only tired him out and came back to bite him in the ass.

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Old 11-19-2011, 04:10 AM   #45
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