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Old 11-18-2011, 01:55 AM   #31
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Lol pactards at full force! That's all pac landed all night, and their not to fast at all to catch with the " naked " eye ..a 5 min video of some pac straight hands landing in slow motion playing over and over...lol wack. If you pactards have to come up with these kind of videos to prove " what we didn't" see or marquez stepping on pacs foot, then its obvious you guys feel he truly lost by trying to justify it with this nonsense... jmm ww wbo champ!
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:56 AM   #32
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meh, SSM, RJJ, and Tyson were all faster, and more explosive than Pac, anyway can he just Man up and fight Mayweather, damn this shit is sad.
this guy isn't more explosive than the Zeus of boxing, Manny Pacquiao

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Old 11-18-2011, 01:57 AM   #33
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:04 AM   #34
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meh, SSM, RJJ, and Tyson were all faster, and more explosive than Pac, anyway can he just Man up and fight Mayweather, damn this shit is sad.
can you see their punches on normal motion?

do you have the quote that mayweather wants to figh t pac on waht date and venue? if ht e pac-marquez4 nego falls, are you sure that OFFERS ISNT GOING OFF THE TABLE, if there was even an offer? are you sure there wont be denying of negotiations now?

why did floyd fight marquez instead of pac? was only 24 hrs to wait fo r the result. we could have the triology now instead of that bullshit take the test x3 shit.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:11 AM   #35
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please don't make me put up a poll asking who's faster between Roy and Pacquiao
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:18 AM   #36
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tyson when he throws, he throws with his body/hips and shoulders. he loads so much. when he weaves and bobs as he comes to yhou, he is leveraging the power of his punches. his power punches come from the side. in other words he needs shorter distance to land his power shots. hollyfield exploited by shooting straight punches at a distance tyson cant touch him, if he did, he cant hurt him and then clinch immediately. rinse and repeat til tyson got tired. then he used his teeth as back up offense but thats another story.

looping punchers is what floyd like to expploit with his straight rights too.

pac doesnt load up his punches. i think he traded pure power, esp on his left for speeda and combos. his punches look like arm punches but they are quick and has lot of torques where they jsut explode at the right distance.

notice jmm's stance against pac. he is at a certain distance where he cant easily be tagged by pac's punch straight up. pac has to come in, closed that distance to be at a distance(midrange) where he can leverage his power.

jmm either, charge forward (at a shorter distance, pac punches doesnt have the explosiveness compared to when at midrange) and land his own punches or step back to maintain the distance. inches and timing.

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Old 11-18-2011, 02:24 AM   #37
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please don't make me put up a poll asking who's faster between Roy and Pacquiao
pure handspeed maybe roy. but most of the time, he waits and counters. or initiate of offense at standstill maybe because of his reach.

pac has to come in with his whole body, sometimes changing direction and landing his punches at different/unique angles. that is very difficult to track on camera.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:30 AM   #38
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...and severely lacking in many technical areas.
i agree to some extent. his chin and agility allows him to make mistakes and not pay for those mistakes.

one he slows down, those areas are going to the surface and more visible as he gets tagged more and often.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:43 AM   #39
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One of my favorite Pac gifs of all time! Even in slow motion time, Pac recovers from a flush shot from JMM to the chin in 2 seconds!

those left hooks (like the one jmm landed on pac on the last sequence) have none or less damage. they just looked pretty.

he was reaching, his left arm straight. he was just swinging it, it caught pac at the end of jmm's fist. no power.

there is reason its called a hook, because you are hooking it. try doing what jmm did, and its very painful to the shoulder esp to the less trained.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:19 AM   #40
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Thats an awesome counter punch combo, pac thought he was out of range on that last punch snap
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:35 AM   #41
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Pacquiao is the fastest and more powerful boxer of all time
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:21 PM   #43
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those left hooks (like the one jmm landed on pac on the last sequence) have none or less damage. they just looked pretty.

he was reaching, his left arm straight. he was just swinging it, it caught pac at the end of jmm's fist. no power.

there is reason its called a hook, because you are hooking it. try doing what jmm did, and its very painful to the shoulder esp to the less trained.

I will prove you wrong:

Yes, this is true when hitting a PUNCHING BAG, literally, I'm not talking about Clottey or Margarito, but Everlast manufactured.

But this is absolutely not the case when hitting a HUMAN IN THE FACE. There is a small fraction of the resistance there is when hitting a heavy bag and thus, your shoulder doesn't get hurt from the sudden torque.

This is even more magnified when the discussed punch lands perfectly across the jaw, where there is virtually no resistance (see recent examples: Martinez/Williams II, Pac/Hatton). The punch you are trying to say had "none or less damage" fits under this perfectly. As if Pac's stumbling afterward isn't enough evidence to show this...
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:54 PM   #44
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No doubt Pactards had Pac winning that exchange!
Who wouldn't?

What you fail to see is that Marquez is actually stepping on Pac's foot, and if you were to watch it in slow motion you would see Pac land like 5 very fast punches that aren't visible in real time. Also it looks like Marquez's punch staggered him, but only because Pac hit himself with his left hand when stepping back, but only to show Marquez that he can counter himself also.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:08 PM   #45
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Pactards are correct! Pac will not be totally appreciated until technology catches up with his genius inside the ring!
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