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Old 01-26-2010, 07:49 PM   #15091
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How in the world is Lukin ranked that highly. He has won 3 of his last 10 (I looked it up). Crazy ranking given his recent (last 3 years) form and the fact he is 10-17-2 overall.

Also, I heard the decision was heavily dispute when Paul Hyland beat Lukin.

As far as a Lindsay-Hyland showdown you have to make Lindsay a firm favourite. He's taken on and beaten the better fighters and dealt well with adversity. By no means would I expect a walk in the park for Lindsay but he'd be a firm favourite for the win
Lukin got that highly ranked as after Paulie beat him, He went on to beat Stanislav Merdov who at the time of the fight was ranked #1 by the EBU...
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:14 PM   #15092
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I wouldn't rank anyone that high on the back of 1 good win.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:31 PM   #15093
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I wouldn't rank anyone that high on the back of 1 good win.
Its standard championship rules - If an unranked fighter beats a ranked fighter they automatically get ranked and by right they should take the place of the opponent they have beaten.....

All small print of course
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:42 PM   #15094
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Here is the IBF ratings rules - I assume the EBU will be very similiar


8. If a top fifteen (15) rated boxer loses to an un-rated boxer then the
rated boxer shall be lowered or removed from the ratings. The unrated
boxer may be considered for a rating in the top fifteen (15)
9. If two boxers are rated in the top ten (10) and compete against each
other then the following shall apply:
A) If the higher ranked boxer wins, he may be elevated in the
ratings.
B) If the lower ranked boxer wins, he will take the position of the
higher rated fighter.
C) If the higher rated fighter loses he shall be lowered in the
ratings.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:53 PM   #15095
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The key part there is "may be considered" so even though he beat the then ranked #1 i don't think his recent form and overall record merits him getting ranked #11.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:32 PM   #15096
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The key part there is "may be considered" so even though he beat the then ranked #1 i don't think his recent form and overall record merits him getting ranked #11.
Like i said that is the IBFs rating rules so the EBU might be different
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:42 PM   #15097
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Nope......I seen him fight Matthews and Appleby and he took some clean shots and Pajo is an awful lot more of a bigger puncher than those two.....Thats what i was basing my theory on
no even a little?
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:43 AM   #15098
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:32 AM   #15099
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Greetings, myself and steve were talking about finding a spot to watch the Brian Magee fight on Saturday in Belfast. Preferably in the city. Sort of an unofficial supporters club night. If anyone has any ideas drop me a line.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:57 AM   #15100
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I find it funny when fans of Pajo constantly mention Cruz and the IBF belt......you do realise Pajo's not ranked by the IBF ?, and that he actually can't fight in an IBF eliminator till he is ?

He's also not as big a puncher as Derry Matthews or Paul Appleby imo, and I don't mean to have this sound like I'm hating on Patrick because I think he's a very good fighter and would give Lindsey a good fight(although I think Lindsay would win).

You have to stay realistic here, Patrick has only just entered the European rankings and what him, his team and his supporters right now should focus on is getting him some good experience and have him progress through those rankings, because until he does Lindsay and his team will have no desire or want to look at him as a potential opponent. He's all risk without reward.

Here's the current European rankings:
1 Martin LINDSAY (GB)
2 Cyril THOMAS (FR)
3 John SIMPSON (GB)
4 Alberto SERVIDEI (IT)
5 Stanislav MERDOV (UA) EE-EU Champion
6 Viorel SIMION (RO)
7 Paul APPLEBY (GB)
8 Alex MISKIRTCHIAN (BE) EU champion
9 Guillauma FRENOIS (FR)
10 Yuri VORONIN (UA)
11 Nikita LUKIN (UA)
12 Paul TRUSCOTT (GB)
13 Massimo MORRA (IT)
14 Esham PICKERING (GB)
15 Jamie ARTHUR (GB)
16 Andreas EVENSEN (NO/FI)
17 Patrick HYLAND (IE)
18 Osman AKTAS (FR)
19 Marcel MEYERDIERCKS (DE)
20 Sofiane TAKOUCHT (FR)

The champion Oleg Yefimovich defends against Andrey Isaev soon.
i agree that lindsay has fought a much better quality of fighters in matthews and appleby and this is gona hav 2 b the year 4 pajo 2 step up 2 the plate and prove his worth. he'l obviously hav 2 beat a few ranked fighters this year 2 b considered for a pop at linsay, but i think he will, and having seen both perform a good few times and im not forgeting the difference in quality of opponents they each hav faced but i think pajo is bigger and stronger than lindsay and easily as good technically! i supose we'l jus hav 2 wait and c, and with any luck over the coming year it'l happen. its nice 2 c an argument 4 both sides and i can c y it sways more 4 lindsay due 2 a proven record and far better ranking but it makes 4 a gud debate!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:09 AM   #15101
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:21 AM   #15102
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Well done duddy doing his job like a professional but that guy was a fairy.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:37 AM   #15103
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boxing in ireland is a joke one show every three monthes or somethin like that promotors should put on more shows less the price of the tickets so people can afford to go and then maybe ireland will produce some true chamoions not manufactured ones
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:42 AM   #15104
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boxing in ireland is a joke one show every three monthes or somethin like that promotors should put on more shows less the price of the tickets so people can afford to go and then maybe ireland will produce some true chamoions not manufactured ones

its not a joke , there was 19 shows or something last year the most in decades

the amateur game is probably the best its ever been with so many champions and the pro game is flying aswel , with 2 european champions(it could be 3 this weekend if magee wins ) and 1 world titlest last year in dunne

what do you expect from a country with only 6 million for **** sake
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:53 AM   #15105
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Lindsay's working hard and raring to go for the Arthur fight. (That's him, not me, by the way!)

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